"Hurts So bad" by Thyrium

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I recorded a local band a few days ago, they do all covers, but wanted a better recording to give club owners and not have such a shitty recording on their myspace.

Anyway they recorded 6 songs in about 6 or 7 hours and then rushed me to mix it and get it done. So, even though there are things you may have done differently, I did what I could in the amount of time I had to work with.

This was also my first time recording a drum set and I basically applied the theory and technique I've learned about from taking every recording course I could afford to get my hands on over the years and I must say all that studying paid off.

I basically knew what to do just didn't have the hands on experience, until now. Tell me what you think and what you would have done differently.

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Hello, considering the time you had, this is a very good mix. Well, i would made a different eq on the guitars, more brightness to them, also on the vocals. That close hi-hat distract me, so i'll turn it a little down. The rest is fine to me, i would like to hear it with the mastering.

Cheers
 
zero00 said:
Hello, considering the time you had, this is a very good mix. Well, i would made a different eq on the guitars, more brightness to them, also on the vocals. That close hi-hat distract me, so i'll turn it a little down. The rest is fine to me, i would like to hear it with the mastering.

Cheers
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I didn't EQ the guitars at all. I did as little EQ and effects as possible. Not that I didn't use any, I did of course, but my goal is to get the sound they want in the recording process and mix based on what's needed, nothing is over done too much I don't think.

Someone told me the bass was distracting. I would of spent a few more days mixing all 6 songs, if they didn't come over the next day and want me to do it all right then and there LOL
 
Lol. That drummer's meter is terrible.

Not a bad mix. The snare is a little donky, meaning it sounds a little top head heavy, but not too bad. The drums overall sound good for the song. Not a big fan of the lead tone. The vox are a little dry for my tastes. I'd like a little delay on em. Overall you did a good job.
 
There is a ton of things I would have done differently, but it's hard when you got a band who wants it done and doesn't want to give you the time to really make sure everything is perfect.

I guess the most important thing is they are happy with the end results.
 
FoulPhil said:
There is a ton of things I would have done differently, but it's hard when you got a band who wants it done and doesn't want to give you the time to really make sure everything is perfect.

I guess the most important thing is they are happy with the end results.
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I don't se how you guys put up with recording other people. I guess if you need the money, you have to deal with bullshit. I'd rather collect tin cans. There's no way I could sit through someone else's bullshit music and then have them rush me through the process. :spank:
 
LOL. I find it easier to record other people than to record myself. I didn't do it because I need the money. They are a bunch of good people. Even though I'm not going out of my way to record anyone, they asked if I would do it, told me the budget they were working with and we just got it done.

So, I gave them a hell of a deal, but still made a decent amount for my time. You want to do better for the band and for your own work. The thing is that a lot of people don't have the ear we have.

So, they don't notice if the tubes of their amps are crackling in the recordings. Not until you point it out and then they still don't care. They just want something that sounds good. Something to show people and give to club owners.

In one way it's better for you because you don't have to put so much time into it, even though you want to put more into it just because it's your art.
 
Lol. Damn, I'm the total opposite. I don't consider any of this "art" and couldn't care less who likes my music. It's mine. As long as I'm happy with it, it's good. I have very little patience for other bands. I play live a lot and can't stand to sit through the opening bands. I'm a total snob. I'd be the worst studio owner ever. :laughings:
 
Vocals are buried. They need to come forward. Drums sound roomy. Maybe too roomy? Maybe bring the guitars a dash forward and bring up the vocals for sure. You could also double the vocals ever so slightly to give them body. That lead guitar is grating. Yuk!! Can't change that. Maybe a bit of eq on the lead to change the tone some. JMHO. Take it as a grain of salt.

Dave
 
LOL. I love recording man. It's just fun for me. I could do it for 8 hours a day for the rest of my life and although it can be frustrating, you're still the boss in the studio. It's not like having some dick head hovering over you when you're working a regular job.

Self employment is a must for people who don't dig their job.
 
studioplayer said:
Vocals are buried. They need to come forward. Drums sound roomy. Maybe too roomy? Maybe bring the guitars a dash forward and bring up the vocals for sure. You could also double the vocals ever so slightly to give them body. That lead guitar is grating. Yuk!! Can't change that. Maybe a bit of eq on the lead to change the tone some. JMHO. Take it as a grain of salt.

Dave
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That's another problem when the guitar player tells you to turn up the guitar solo!
 
FoulPhil said:
That's another problem when the guitar player tells you to turn up the guitar solo!
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It's the tone of his amp. It has some weird harmonics in the mid range and sounds like a single 10" speaker. :rolleyes:
 
FoulPhil said:
LOL. I love recording man. It's just fun for me. I could do it for 8 hours a day for the rest of my life and although it can be frustrating, you're still the boss in the studio. It's not like having some dick head hovering over you when you're working a regular job.

Self employment is a must for people who don't dig their job.
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I love recording too, but not other people's shit. You weren't the boss in this case. The band was hovering over you. You said so yourself. If you're getting paid, the bands are your boss. And until you have a reputation of churning out awesome mixes, you can't tell people to fuck off if you want a career out of it.
 
Yeah but it's not like having a dick head boss that's on your ass everyday LOL. Because they ask your advice, but part of the job is making them happy. Unless you're recording a REAL album and not just a demo for club owners you can't been less hard core with them.

I think it's a producers job to tell the band "FUCK YOU, DO WHAT I SAY, BITCH"! LOL
 
Greg_L said:
You weren't the boss in this case. The band was hovering over you. You said so yourself. If you're getting paid, the bands are your boss. And until you have a reputation of churning out awesome mixes, you can't tell people to fuck off if you want a career out of it.
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Very true.

If you are in a professional setting with different people in each role (recording/mixing engineer, mastering engineer, producer, band members, et al) it is the producer's job to encourage the band to go outside and wank off on dirty magazines while you as the mixing engineer, mix something to the producer's taste.

In many smaller studios, and/or studios that are specific to a band or artist, often times one person wears many hats and then you have less people to play traffic cop. In that case, a sign may be useful. Hang it in plain view over the console:

"Touching knob fee - $5 per incident."
 
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