Huge Accoustic Tone

[VesuviusJay]

I have done some re-searching here in the threadpool and I have a question. I am recording a project that has dynamic changes from clean guitar to mesa boogie triple rectifier overdrive. I think my Gibson Workingman 45 will sound great in the mix. My dilema, I need a stereo pair of mics to record the accoustic with the same power/punch I get with the boogie. Which makes/models do you guys recommend. I have a pair of beta sm57's. But I read here somwhere that overhead style condensors may give larger tone. Any favorites, or recommendations for my situation?

 

[freshmattyp]

I have a J45 that sounds great through a matched pair of Marshall 603's. Great mics for the money.

 

[LI_Slim]

I have recorded acoustic guitar some with my AT4047, a large condensor mic I got for recording vocals. It does not give you the precision that good small condensors will, but it (or another large condensor) may indeed give you a coloration that you are looking for. You will need to experiment a lot with mic placement and be concerned about room sound because you can end up with a real boxy sound if you are not carefull

 

[chmosbrook]

I have had great luck with my oktova mk 012 pair.
At work I have many choices like shure ksm 109 or AKG c391. Of these I prefer the AKG pair.
Most importantly is youre source. Your Guitar will make all the differance in the world. 1st find an instrument with the tone you want.

 

[chessrock]

I don't know that there's a lot of room in just about any mix for both a big, powerful electric and a big, powerful accoustic at the same time.

You're very likely to get some strong competition between the two, as they eat up your available "headroom," figuratively-speaking in the mix. You wouldn't believe how much low frequency energy a powerful accoustic guitar tone will eat up and how much mud it will contribute when combined with a strong electric guitar. I think you're going to find that some compromizes need to be made.

That said, if I was looking for a big, powerful accoustic guitar tone, I wouldn't be looking at small-diaphragm condensers. I just wouldn't. I'd start with a large -- and preferably a tube condenser if that were practical. I think Rode NTK's are simply amazing in that application. If cost is a concern, then the NT1000 isn't bad, either. CAD M9 would be a nice compromize.

Don't even bother with stereo recording. Just stick the best LDC you can get your hands on at just below the 12th fret angled towards the sound hole, double track it, compress and limit generously, and pan hard Left and Right.

 

[VesuviusJay]

Thanks Chess! I will start shopping for an LDC and I will post later with my results.

My Gibson Workingman has super huge tone by itself so it should be fun finding the right capturing devise.

 

[Big Kenny]

excellent advice chess
I've used tha application with remarkable results
occasionally paired with a senn 421
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Big Kenny