How We Gonna Get Home?

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Okay, I tried to use very little compression on this song. It's an old one, but I just redid it with current knowledge.

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Now my thoughts and questions...

I think I might need a de-esser on the vocals.

do the extreme panning of the guitars bother you guys? I might try and do an even both sides for the main rhythm part.

Do the drums sound too soft?

Also, I was considering redoing the bass with less tone (tone know down) to give it a softer feel.

What do you guys think? Any advice?
 
Your songs usually have a proximity effect that I've always liked...like you're right there in the same room...this recording doesn't have that. I don't know if it's a byproduct of the compression; it sounds more like a reverb deal to me.

TOO MUCH VERB, lol.

Doubled vocals? I like them a lot on faster stuff, and not so much on "intimate" tunes.

I'm being picky b/c I know you give a shit.

Very cool song, btw.

Chris
 
Hey thanks for responding Chrisharris!

I typically have been slathering my tracks in compression and very little reverb, which...at least to me, give the sound of "right in your face". However, as much as I like that, I dislike the sever "edge" that seemed to come with it.

I also tend to NOT use much reverb in my tunes, and this one just seemed like it needed some extra. I was actually trying to make up for it in my mix instead of remixing it, and hit the entire mix with another dose of reverb, which might be what you're talking about. I might have over done it with reverbs of reverbs going on.

I'll try it with the one voice, and maybe bring the other in during the chorus. Once I added the reverb, the two voices didn't seem needed anyway.

Thanks a ton!
 
One Voice

excellent song and recording!
I would like to hear it with one vocal track as well.
 
Love the movement/groove in this ... esp. early...

Maybe too much 'verb on the vox...

Billy Joel flavors... w/dash of Bono Hewson

Damn! The rhythm gets even more funky. Very sweet. I'm feelin' it...

LOVE the bass vs/gtr in that bridgy part!! DAMN that's cool. (the "I can't think of..." part)

I'm tellin ya, the music is a FIVE right now.

Recording has some ambience difficulties/inclarities/cloudies... and some slightly "dirty" sounding trax.

Some flatties on the falsetto notes...


FIVE ***** for the GROOVE!!

Chad
 
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back...My home DSL Is down for a few weeks, so I'm stuck with only work access...sigh...:(

HEVYD47CA: Thanks for the kind words! Like I said I'm gonna strip it down and do another mix of this with one vocal on the verses.

PARTICIPANT: Thanks for responding! Yeah, I'm gonna seriously tone down that reverb. When I listen to this song next to one of my others is sounds like this one is being played in the back of some warehouse or something...I need to fix that. I've never gotten the Billy Joel comparison, but I'll take that, and I think you were the one that mentioned Bono from a previous song...I'm also quite fine with that...thanks. Also, hopefully I'll find which vocal track I've got the flat note(s) on and eliminate that one (hopefully it's only on one track!), while I'm slimming down the vocals. Thanks!
 
Nice song. :-) Totally nice groove.

You mention de-essing, which may be part of it, but I think the reverb is really bright and perhaps too much. I also hear that slap-back which may be part of the reverb pre-delay.

I'll be waiting for your updated mix! :)
 
CARYINDY: Thanks! I'll have to check my reverb settings, because as You mentioned, some of them are bright because they run through an EQ. I'll check. Also, I think I'm slapping back the wrong stuff. I basically just need a new mix from scratch. Thanks for listening!
 
Too much reverb and effects ... toys destroy beauty

Too much reverb, the performing here is good enough where you don't have to hide it from us with effects. Any fool can record effects, you ain't no fool, you are a 'homerecording.com' artist, don't forget that. We want to 'hear YOU', not your effects. At least I do :-) .

This is a beautiful song.

The guitar fills are a little too loud, the bass is fine, the bass could stand a little more delay. Very tasteful bass player, he knows his place here, and that makes him an excellent bass player.

The vocal is mixed out front enough, but of course there is a tremendous amount of sibilance generated from the slathering of the effects on the lead vocal.

Also, the backup harmony vocal is totally buried by the effects. Harmony vocals are GOLDEN, don't cheat us, let us enjoy them.

You may have compressed the vocal just a bit too much, can't really tell yet, there is a huge amount of dynamic quality to this vocal, use more of it, let it out of the jail that compression can create for a lead vocal.

At 2:24 this Instrumental Break is mixed well.

Your voice is more than good enough to shine in this song, don't tarnish it with so much effect. You are you, and you ain't gonna be nobody else with those boxes all over you.

You don't need a 'de-esser' YOU have CREATED the sibilance you think is 'sssssing'

Sing this song straight, it's a great song, I'd love to put some violin fills in it, I hear some cello coming out in places also, doubling and supporting the bass line ... maybe.

At 3:40, when ya'll go up in this high vocal register, roll some serious tap delay off that, roll it around, now that is a very appropriate place to use effects, but the rest of the song has to be much drier of course for that contrast to be effective.

At 3:11 when the hat comes in, the sibilance on the vocal caused by the overuse of effects, causes there to be little contrast sonically in the mix for the hat to be effective here, it just reminds us of the sibilance in the vocal ...

Also, the sidestick is too loud, sonically the natural tendency of a sidestick or woodblock is to CUT THROUGH ANYTHING ... so folks are always mixing it too loud. A rule of thumb I think can be considered, is if the sidestick or woodblock is used very little, then it becomes an instrument of opportunity and should cut through for the brief time it is presented in a piece of music, but if it's a re-curring element, it needs to be mixed way, way back, becuase it's natural tendancy is to cut straight through to the core of our ears, so it's a very powerful instrument naturally. And it can distract massively and annoy if not mixed very tastefully.

Dudes, I'm giving this song 5 stars, I give the mix 2 stars because you hid the vocal from me, and the backup vocals.

Really nice song, please re-mix this without all the effects. Thanks for sharing.

Man, I could listen to this a bunch of times ...
 
Gotta agree with the previous posts. The reverb is almost too much. I think this could be a much more intimate tune with way less verb and I also agree with the double tracking...I love double tracking, but I think on something like this, at least during the verse, single tracking may give it a more intimate feel. I like the doubling in the chorus, though.

Real nice tune you have here. I like it!

:D
 
Gotta go with the consensus here

Too much reverb, Vocals are also buried at times. Bass could be a bit smoother--maybe pull some of the highs off the top. Drums--the kick might come up just a bit.

It's a nice tune. All the elements are there, just getting the mix right and your there.
 
Hey man, killer tune....would you give me a quick rundown of the equipment used.

Thanks,

b
 
Forget the de-esser it adds a nice( and Cool) character to the song. Super Vox! This sounds mixed just right to me. all the parts are in proper perspective , placement and the song is complimented by the excellent mix. Very Often I cant make out lyrics in clinic songs but these are clear to me! Therefore I dissagree with many of the above comments :)
I dont see anything too wet in the mix.
Great job *****

peace
Bill
 
The reverbs are too similar sounding. I would either let that ambient thing happen on the instruments or the vocal not both. Try setting up a completely different reverb and settings and apply to taste.
 
The instrumentation is great! But, man, that verb is distracting (yeah, like I should talk, :rolleyes). It doesn't need all that verb. It's as if you are really trying to hide something. This is a nicely composed piece of work. I could hear some more instrumentation on it (especially in the chorus part). But, outside of that, kill some of that reverb, and you'll have a super cool tune! :)
 
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