how to use noise shaping

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I'm just about done this album and its mixing, but I'm going to get into noise shaping as the last step I think, because so many people have talked about good results using it. For those of you who have used it, I've got this question: do you find that one of the noise shaping settings works best for most of the stuff you do on your system, or do you have to experiment with every song and go through all of the settings to find the one that's best for each particular tune?
 
I could have sworn I responded to this.

Oh well. You SHOULD judge each song independently I guess, but the consensus is that for the kind of stuff you do Dobro, go with Triangular 99% of the time.

I guess I could detail that response more, but it would be duller than reading the ingredients on a cereal box.
 
Well, Triangular isn't noise shaping, it's something else - so you're suggesting I don't do any noise shaping?
 
dobro said:
Well, Triangular isn't noise shaping, it's something else - so you're suggesting I don't do any noise shaping?
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Oh...well...hrm. I see. Well then...


HEY, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY HEARD ME??? Do I SOUND like I know what I'm doing???? Of COURSE NOT!!
 
:D

I wish I could make my letters go all big like that.

I think what I need to do at this point is:

1 stop trawling for tips

2 play with noise shaping

I'll post my results.
 
...I never touch it. Tell me I'm stupid, but I realy don't have any idea what the H*** is Noise Shaping for... :D :D :D Can anybody gimme an idea what is that ? Is this tool going to be one of those "must be known by mixing engineer to be realy cool engineer" s**t? Enlight me oh dear masters... I beg you... :(
 
James Argo said:
Enlight me oh dear masters... I beg you... :(
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HEY, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY HEARD ME??? Do I SOUND like I know what I'm doing???? Of COURSE NOT!!
 
Triangular / 48KHz

I don't know why, but it seems to sound better. Very super slight difference to my ear.
 
James - my understanding's rudimentary at best but here goes. When you dither a file down to 44.1/16-bit, what that process does actually is to add some noise to the file, which is preferable to the sound you get when each chunk of digital information is chopped off cleanly at the specified bit and rate. What noise shaping allows you to do is choose where in the audio spectrum that dithering noise goes. You can put it where it's less noticeable - way up at the top end, for example, beyond the range of human hearing. Here's a cool link to graphs of the various CE noise shapes - you can *see* where the noise goes.

http://snow.prohosting.com/post78/CEdither.html

Chris - I like 48 KHz too, but I've only listened to one song. I think I prefer it to C2 as well, which others seem to like a lot.
 
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