how to mix it better

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hopefully this works . . .
http://d.turboupload.com/d/2006529/A_hardshitproject_postmaster.mp3.html

I just want to see if any one has any ideas or . . . what frequencies I can manipulate to make the track a little . . . "brighter" or "sharper" . . .

I may not be using the correct terminology here . . . but when I mix it on . . . what's heard on my monitors is VERY CRISP but when I play it in . . . cars, etc. . . . some of that crispness, brightness is gone . . . I want to "account" for the difference . . .
 
ADVICE FROM A sub par mixer?

This definitely is not the best of advice, but it works for me. First, you may need to adjust some settings on your monitors. I had a friend break it down and show me actually..............
But, when you listen to it it in the car, you should be able to pick up what is missing and what is needed. Go back and add that.
Like a lil more high, leveling out the bottom, etc.......Play it again and take notice of the difference and again apply what is needed. Go back and forth. Once it sounded a way that I was satisfied in the car, my friend adjusted my monitors and it mimicked the cars sound. The KEy thing I had to do was mix low, then I brought everything up. It took me a long time to get it to my satisfaction, but it still wasn't "Totally Crisp" but definitely wasn't crap!

If I may add: My Home stereo always seemed to mimmick my monitors, my car was the stepchild reference point. So when I used my stepchild as a reference and got it compatible to my monitors, life was easier for me!
 
In most cases, your car isn't always the most optimal listening location, however, that is what your target audience plays music regularly at. You should try using a parametric EQ, and boosting with a somewhat wide Q at around 5K and that should fix your problem. Unless you have too much lows & midranges, which you could cut some of that leaving your higher frequencies untouched, which basically would do the same thing. Choose whichever is best, dependent on how hot your signal already is... If it's already hot, bumping n e thing might cause it to clip or be too hot, so then the suggestive measure would be to lower down your other frequencies a tad.
 
Thanks For The Input - Im Gon Digest Them Vittles Then Git To Crackin Wit Em - I Will Post Up A Newer Version When Im Done . . . But Anyone Else With Some Feedback . . . Plz Dont Hesitate
 
I've found that this works wonders for mixing. Use a frequency analyzer to see if your frequencies are to high or to low.

Something like the Waves PAZ analyzer

If you pay attention to the analyzer and look at the frequencies the mix is dead on almost everytime.

Also, you can put a mixed song that you like and view the frequencies and try to match them.
 
thanks. that im gon try to use. this oughtta be a good weekend for mixxin!!!
 
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If you pay attention to the analyzer and look at the frequencies the mix is dead on almost everytime.
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I can't agree with this in any way. Flat frequency response DOES NOT equal good sound like that. Use your ears... They are what the music is about.
just want to see if any one has any ideas or . . . what frequencies I can manipulate to make the track a little . . . "brighter" or "sharper" . . .
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If your mixes have too little high end in them everywhere but in your monitors then you need to adjust your monitors... But make sure you play your mixes through a decent quality system too. If you heard it on a bunch of car stereos that weren't all that great then I wouldn't just trust that.

But listening to your mix it sounds like your vocals are super loud to me. I'd bring your vocals down by at least 3-5db. Then I'd put the mix through a little bit of limiting to bring everything together a little better...

but that's just me. Take it for what it's worth.
 
I'm going to have to agree with MrT on this. I wouldn't be too dependent on a analyzer. Use it as a tool to kno your power to freq.
 
I think your lows a bit too high...
 
gracias!!! i was thinkin the vocals were too loud - but it was just a feelin - im gon bring em down!!!!

by the way - MINDSET - the pics in ya sig are . . . TITE!!!
 
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Va Doom - The Lows R Too High? Hmm . . . Is That The Same As "too Strong" ?
 
imma take a listen to this this week and get back to you on it
 
MrT: I can't agree with this in any way. Flat frequency response DOES NOT equal good sound like that. Use your ears... They are what the music is about.



You use it as a TOOL just as you would any other plugin. I should have said that at first. Thanks for pointing that out.

You master with those kind of tools and analyzers. Find phase problems, requency peaks and find a problem that is an issue. Yes, use your ears and train them. But, folks mixing for the first time sometimes need visuals to learn and train their ears. Then when you mix, you can see the wave frquencies in your head while you listen to the track. You can tell when your ears are trained. And that's the truth.

Now, if you want to talk about frequency response, that's a different story. Frequency response and EQ in an orchestral production will be a lot different than hip hop.

Also, EQing your monitors is fine but you really want to treat the sound in your room correctly first and fix bass issues in the room and fix reverb problems. Then see if EQ on your monitors is needed.

Look at this video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Q7I6dw_UY



Gullyjewelz,

When you mix do you put processing on the master fadder?
 
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im gon check that when i get home - i usually avoid applying effects to the master . . . i put them mostly on the indiv. tracks . . .
 
Very good. You got it already. Fix problems in the mix from the tracks and not the master fadder. You can process limiting and master compression, but if you mix it good track by track, mastering will be easy as pie. :D
 
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im gon check that when i get home - i usually avoid applying effects to the master . . . i put them mostly on the indiv. tracks . . .
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instead of putting them on indiv track..try bussin them in groups..so if you put the wrong effect its a easy fix..

imma listen to this tonight..
 
Good point!

I use sub aux tracks for rever and effects.

Examples:

-Vocal Sub 1
-Vocal Sub 2
-Hook 1 Sub
-Hook 2 Sub
-Dly Aux
-Reverb Aux

and so on...

It saves CPU power also. ;)
 
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Va Doom - The Lows R Too High? Hmm . . . Is That The Same As "too Strong" ?
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Sorry I wasn't clear...

The "thumps" are a bit overwhelming in my opinion. In fact, they sound like they are clipping... I think if you bring the volume down a bit, it should get better.
 
Gully, thanks. I actually did it myself lmao, I'm not that good in photoshop, but I'm glad it looked decent.

The tool used to tune a room in a professional environment is the program called "Smaart". Smaart does other things too, pretty nice program. Also widely used in live shows.
 
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