How should i set up my room?

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here is a room i might be moving into right now i'm in a 15x 13 little cracker box, but anyway i record vocals - screamo mainly- acoustic and electric guitar, drums, and bass, and track of coarse, could i do all this in the same room? with building cheap walls or somthing?

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help please? i just need someboady to through together alittle paint layout of how i should fo it.
 
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The drawing below shows the best way to set up for listening in a typical rectangle room. Once you know where the speakers and mix position go, put the instruments you're recording in the rest of the room behind you. In your case you want the speakers at the top of the drawing facing toward the bottom. That way the door is behind you, which maintains left-right symmetry where it matters - between you and the loudspeakers.

--Ethan

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For sure, this is what you should do...

Build stud walls and fill the whole cavity (outside the frame) with fiberglass or mineral wool. Then, instead of Drywall or sheetrock, put up fabric that has been sprayed with fire retardant. You can get burlap real cheap. hang clouds of absorbers over the mix position and you've got a nice track/mix room.
 

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chris-from-ky said:
For sure, this is what you should do...

Build stud walls and fill the whole cavity (outside the frame) with fiberglass or mineral wool. Then, instead of Drywall or sheetrock, put up fabric that has been sprayed with fire retardant. You can get burlap real cheap. hang clouds of absorbers over the mix position and you've got a nice track/mix room.
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well i need to have seprate rooms for acoustic guitar, electric guitar and bass and also drums, yeh it will be kinda cramped.
 
Well I really hope you don't mean have a room for each, making it 4 separate rooms, because I'm sorry to be the first to inform you, but in a room that small it just isn't possible to do that, and have a control room, with proper isolation, or good acoustics in any of them. You could get away with 4 isolation booths that are deadish, but you still need a decent sized control room to create good mixes. In fact I don't even think you can fit anything more than one room in there, maybe two, but your live room will be tiny, as well as the control room. The previous plans suggested are not only suggested by well respected figures in the world of studio design and acoustics, but are the plans that truly work. I don't see you having anything more than 1 room if proper isolation and good acoustics are attempted. I advise you to do one room, and make it kick ass!

Good luck.

Ben
 
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Well I really hope you don't mean have a room for each, making it 4 separate rooms, because I'm sorry to be the first to inform you, but in a room that small it just isn't possible to do that, and have a control room, with proper isolation, or good acoustics in any of them. You could get away with 4 isolation booths that are deadish, but you still need a decent sized control room to create good mixes. In fact I don't even think you can fit anything more than one room in there, maybe two, but your live room will be tiny, as well as the control room. The previous plans suggested are not only suggested by well respected figures in the world of studio design and acoustics, but are the plans that truly work. I don't see you having anything more than 1 room if proper isolation and good acoustics are attempted. I advise you to do one room, and make it kick ass!

Good luck.

Ben
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but what would i do with the big room? like theres no benifit, cause you can only track one thing at a time.
 
and also i have carpet in this room and only plan to stay in this house for another year - year and a half, so i don't really want to dumpa whole lot of money into this. but anyway i have carpet could i build the wall frames on top of this or would that be bad?
 
4 small rooms in that space? Even two rooms will sound horrible! At least with my option, you could take it all down and out with you when you left.

Take your money and go to a studio that's already up and running. Forget having one of your own until your space is secured.


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Why is it that everybody lately won't take sound advice. No pun intended. The questions are asked. Logical advice is given. And the one seeking guidance has a laundry list of ridiculous demands and can't compromise their own ideas all of a sudden. What ever happened to "Do it right the first time." and "Quality is better than quantity." I just don't get some people. I'd love a cheap to free studio that's 100% effective and easily mobile and the highest quality available today. The problem is IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!!!!! This is where I say people definitely need more brains than passion and talent. It'd save me and many others (right rick?) the trouble of ranting.
 
chris-from-ky said:
4 small rooms in that space? Even two rooms will sound horrible! At least with my option, you could take it all down and out with you when you left.

Take your money and go to a studio that's already up and running. Forget having one of your own until your space is secured.


Side note:
Why is it that everybody lately won't take sound advice. No pun intended. The questions are asked. Logical advice is given. And the one seeking guidance has a laundry list of ridiculous demands and can't compromise their own ideas all of a sudden. What ever happened to "Do it right the first time." and "Quality is better than quantity." I just don't get some people. I'd love a cheap to free studio that's 100% effective and easily mobile and the highest quality available today. The problem is IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!!!!! This is where I say people definitely need more brains than passion and talent. It'd save me and many others (right rick?) the trouble of ranting.
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ok, whatever, my opinon is 3 rooms
 
Ok, here's what I'd do with the room: Build a booth around 15'x10' ie half the room. The interior will be around 13'x8'. Use this for tracking everything. Make it a 2 leaf structure with a floating floor. Make it a staggered stud wall, with the inner leaf swaped so that the rigid fiberglass is on the inside. Cover the fiberglass in material, for some, and hardboard for others, so it's dead but not too dead, and the hardboard 1s will act as bass traps, and reflect higher frequencies. In the control room, that gap that u cud with doors, build 2 broadband abosbers with hinges and use these for doors. They wont do shit for isolation if you need it, but if you don't then they'll act really well as bass traps, depending upon the space behind. Mount a corner bass trap in each corner, and have broadband absorbers in the first reflection points, and a cloud above the mixing position at the 1st ceiling reflection point. For the space left at the back of the control room, build broadband absorbers. Check the attached pic. This is just what I'd do, not sure if it'd be your best choice, but it is what I thought of when i read this thread.
 

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msblaze said:
but what would i do with the big room? like theres no benifit, cause you can only track one thing at a time.
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Um................ Thats what alot of folks do in a home studio! :rolleyes:
There is few times were we have the advantage of having space for a multi room studio.

If its critical to have everyone record at once into individual chanels(assuming you have enough input chanels on your sound card), Then you just need to consider recording the guitars and bass direct, and if you have and accoustic player there then using the hallway or a closet to your advantage to isolate him/her.... :cool:

But I will chime with the rest, just setup the studio as a nice one room afair.

-Blaze
 
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ok, whatever, my opinon is 3 rooms
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Why bother to come in here and ask what is best if you've already made up your mind????

"your opinion". :rolleyes:

That and $4 will get me a latte at Starbucks.

Forget the seperate rooms. You're gonna move in a year anyways. Track one instrument at a time or find a new hobby.
 
i think i'm going to use the 2 room idea, thank you very much pandamonk, your the only one that has actually helped in this thread, thanx a whole bunch ;]
 
msblaze said:
i think i'm going to use the 2 room idea, thank you very much pandamonk, your the only one that has actually helped in this thread, thanx a whole bunch ;]
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No probs. I think everyone has helped in some way. We have all given our own opinions. Mine may be wrong, but in my opinion, it'll be your best solution. Although having 2 smaller rooms rather than 1 larger, isn't so good acoustically, it does give you some isolation needed for recording loud sources. And use of broadband absorbers, clouds, and bass traps, means that the acoustics shouldn't be too bad. I'd love to see a detailed ethan winer, or rick fitz, plan. They're guys you should listen 2. I'm just an 18 year old kid who has read a bunch about acoustics. Ethan is an expert, and many(including me)consider Rick to be one too.
 
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> I'd love to see a detailed ethan winer, or rick fitz, plan. >

Better, HERE is a plan from Wes Lachot, noted studio designer, written up by me for an EQ Magazine article.

--Ethan
 
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