how much editing is too much?

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Id quantize the fuck out of it and replace the drummer with EZ drummers DFH and take the money...next time I wouldnt even bother trying to give them a "natural" sound just put the entire thing on automatic quantize and then stick it through an Ozone preset...who cares, if they pay fine :)
 
Work sucks.

Is this your job or is recording a hobby?
 
Time management wise, which is worth more? Your time or theirs. It might be easier and faster to get them to retrack over and over until you get one good take. At a minimum it forces them to practice. Versus taking a limited gene pool and altering it's DNA on a cell per cell basis until it resembles something in proximity of familiar.

I don't know if you noticed of late, but most of todays programming is about quantity, not quality. i.e. Cast of two, crew of one (reality television). 500 episodes in 500 days.
 
heatmiser said:
I just don't get any of this and feel sorry for the op.

I don't record other people and don't even record myself all that often, but when I do, I never have to slide or adjust the timing of anything after the fact (and I am not a great musician by any means).

How can someone feel as though they are in a position to have their music recorded if they are incapable of playing in a manner that does not require someone else to move their parts around after the fact to get them to fit rhythmically? That just doesn't make sense to me at all...is this common?

You don't need my advice, but I have to say I am amazed at what you describe as already having been done and would not consider going further down that path.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^This was my first thought when I read the OP. I know those of us of a certain age have to bend and adapt a bit to accomodate the new technological moves of the last 20 years but honestly, sometimes, like in the OP's scenario, I'm sorry, but it just gets ridiculous. This isn't a bit of editing or cutting and pasting backing vocals or even autotuning a word or two that's a little sharp or flat. This is Frankenstein~esque. I'd rather be an inflexible old fogey that could play in time and record it. Technology be screwed if this is what it means.


Fortunately, it doesn't.
 
brownbearTLE said:
I'm not asking for advice but feedback on what you guys would do in that situation?
perfectly edit? or keep the mix from sounding like a robot? :confused:
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I'd edit it if they wanted me too, but I'd charge them whatever amount I feel would motivate me to do all that editing. If they didn't want that, I'd tell them to get lost. You shouldn't be the one having to make their band stop sucking...you're just the guy who puts it all together.
 
Supercreep said:
Apparently, editing is a real money-maker. :D
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And a real time suck, doing something not involved in actively making music or recording music. It's not as fun when it's not "your" music. Money just buys the other things that makes it semi-worth while. Or whatever passes for money these days. Gear, season tickets, whatever applies.
 
I'm a hobbyist in college that fell in love with recording two years ago, mostly just recording my band, doing side project demos and what not

then i upgraded, started recording really tight bands around the area. Each of them played their instruments perfectly and it made a great recording. So when i started getting great audio quality (well, sub par in my mind but better than what i started with) i think other bands in the area thought i could make anyone sound good. A really good bedroom mixer from my hometown had this problem, he would make already great bands sound good then he got bands that wanted nothing more than to record, rather than play shows, get laid, and have fun. You know, the reason why kids in high school pick up an instrument haha

maybe i sound like a a bad guy for saying that. but having to edit so much and to make a bad band sound good really sucks the fun out of doing something i love
 
brownbearTLE said:
I'm a hobbyist in college that fell in love with recording two years ago, mostly just recording my band, doing side project demos and what not

then i upgraded, started recording really tight bands around the area. Each of them played their instruments perfectly and it made a great recording. So when i started getting great audio quality (well, sub par in my mind but better than what i started with) i think other bands in the area thought i could make anyone sound good. A really good bedroom mixer from my hometown had this problem, he would make already great bands sound good then he got bands that wanted nothing more than to record, rather than play shows, get laid, and have fun. You know, the reason why kids in high school pick up an instrument haha

maybe i sound like a a bad guy for saying that. but having to edit so much and to make a bad band sound good really sucks the fun out of doing something i love
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You should tell them this.
 
Play the original out-of time mix to the guy and tell him to STFU!!
 
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