How do these re-amped guitar tracks sound?

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As some of you know, I started experimenting with re-amping DI guitar tracks. I ordered a reamp box, which I'm waiting for. But I did do a few tracks in the last few days without the box. Just wondering if there's anything wildly wrong with any of these tracks, including any of the other tracks while we're at it.

No vocals yet. This is just something I started working on yesterday, so it's also a pretty rough mix.
 

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Sounds good sounds like it was recorded that way not reamped. Good choice of sounds lots of variety and they all work. The only thought I had when listening was the level seems to be too consistent - compressed maybe ? Not volume as that differs between patches. I like the sustain.

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So you need to provide some details....guitar, effects, amp etc...
 
ido1957 said:
Sounds good sounds like it was recorded that way not reamped. Good choice of sounds lots of variety and they all work. The only thought I had when listening was the level seems to be too consistent - compressed maybe ? Not volume as that differs between patches. I like the sustain.

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So you need to provide some details....guitar, effects, amp etc...
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Thanx Ido. Not sure what you mean about the levels being too consistent. You mean the guitars?

All these tracks were done with my Epi SG. I recorded DI and used a free amp sim, trying to get as close to the sound I would hopefully end up with. So, I didn't record the sim, just used it as my "sound" and recorded the direct. I then took the DI signal, ran it out of my interface and into my Fender Super ChampX2. I realized after doing the tracks that the level coming into my amp was too hot, way hotter than a guitar signal. If they sound good to everyone, I'll leave them as is, but when I get the reamp box I ordered, I might re-reamp them. I used my wah wah for the part starting at about 2:30. :)
 
Definitely keep these tracks and do the next song with the box. Is the champ creating that creamy sustain by itself????
 
ido1957 said:
Definitely keep these tracks and do the next song with the box. Is the champ creating that creamy sustain by itself????
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Awesome man, thanx. That's good to know.

Yeah, straight into the Champ. It's a tube amp with presets. Has some nice sounds. This was sound #13. :D
 
The levels on the guitars - yes - the leads. It sounds like my compressor with al that sustain but mine tends to reduce dynamics which is not necessarily a bad thing.

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ido1957 said:
The levels on the guitars - yes - the leads. It sounds like my compressor with al that sustain but mine tends to reduce dynamics which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Oh, I see what you're saying. No compression, but distortion has a natural compression going on, so maybe the too hot signal going into the amp made the amp perform some kind of saturated-compression or something. I have no idea what I'm talking about. :)
 
Man these updates in responses suck. Give me a new post fcs.
 
I'm guessing the amp gain/pre/something is compressing naturally then. Sound pretty nice though. I wonder how hot it is compared to a pedal. What kind of output level did you use - roughly.
 
ido1957 said:
I'm guessing the amp gain/pre/something is compressing naturally then. Sound pretty nice though. I wonder how hot it is compared to a pedal. What kind of output level did you use - roughly.
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I used a guitar level input and then left my fader at unity when sending the signal out to what I think was line-out level? I know that after doing these tracks, I was reamping some clean tracks for another tune, and I had to decrease the level by 14db to send about the same level my guitar would send out. So, it was definitely a way too hot signal for this tune. Maybe I'm onto something. :D
 
RAMI said:
As some of you know, I started experimenting with re-amping DI guitar tracks. I ordered a reamp box, which I'm waiting for. But I did do a few tracks in the last few days without the box. Just wondering if there's anything wildly wrong with any of these tracks, including any of the other tracks while we're at it.

No vocals yet. This is just something I started working on yesterday, so it's also a pretty rough mix.
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Sounds good to me. The whole thing's good, but that segment from 2.12 - 2.32 shifts out of the groove slightly in a very satisfying way - everything's working really well together.
 
These tracks seem to have a lot more gain than your usual sound. Maybe it's all in my head because I know the back story form that other thread. IMO, that liquid creamy sustain in the lead tracks works for the line your playing, but it sounds kind of 80s-ish to me. Like it's getting dangerously close to Satriani/Vai shred wank tone sound. The preamp section of your amp must be working pretty damn hard to make a P-90 SG sing like that. That's not what those pickups or guitar is especially known for. But like I said, I think it works for the lead lines. I'm not crazy about it for the rhythm parts. They don't sound bad, but I personally prefer your usual "crunch" kind of sound over an overdriven rhythm sound. These do sound like a tube amp getting slammed hard by a hot signal. That's not always bad, but it's not really "the truth" either. Once you get that reamp box I think you'll be able to feed the amp a signal that won't lie to you. Ultimately, the sound you get is all that matters however you get it, but it just seems to me that reamping would be a lot better if the amp acts like an actual guitar is plugged into it.
 
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...... Like it's getting dangerously close to Satriani/Vai shred wank tone sound........
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Ok, thanx. I thought that maybe, too. But also thought it might just be me thinking that since I know how I arrived at those sounds. Not that I'm anywhere in the same league as those guys, but it's certainly not the sound I'm looking for or trying to achieve.

The preamp section of your amp must be working pretty damn hard to make a P-90 SG sing like that. That's not what those pickups or guitar is especially known for. But like I said, I think it works for the lead lines. I'm not crazy about it for the rhythm parts. They don't sound bad, but I personally prefer your usual "crunch" kind of sound over an overdriven rhythm sound. These do sound like a tube amp getting slammed hard by a hot signal. That's not always bad, but it's not really "the truth" either. Once you get that reamp box I think you'll be able to feed the amp a signal that won't lie to you. Ultimately, the sound you get is all that matters however you get it, but it just seems to me that reamping would be a lot better if the amp acts like an actual guitar is plugged into it.
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It will be no problem at all to re-reamp these and hear the difference. I'll do that when I get the box and see if I like a more "natural" sound better. The last thing I want is to sound 80's-ish in any way. Like I had said in the other thread, I kept turning the gain lower and lower on the amp and still got a shitload of distortion and sustain. There was hardly any difference between having the gain on 3 or having it on 10. The box will give me way more control.

Thanx, man.
 
Haha, yeah there should be a buttload of difference between 3 and 10 when dialing in gain. Helll, plug your guitar in and try it at 3 and try it at 10. I bet it's miles of difference. One's gonna be cleanish, one's gonna be full fury.

As is usually the case, the direct line out seems to be slamming the bujeezus out of your amp's front end.
 
This reamping thing is interesting because the ability to play with the sound without having to play the guitar is so handy.
Hang in there the box will be there by Christmas.
 
sounds good here - but yeah, I do hear the overcompressed shred-god thing going on, too - not punchy like your other stuff. I think I read the thread here, but did you say what you did to re-amp this time? Could you be slamming the input on the amp?

Please keep us updated about the re-amp box. I want one - I've used other techniques before, but I think getting the impedance and level correct in the most straightforward way would be best. When does that patent expire?
 
ido1957 said:
This reamping thing is interesting because the ability to play with the sound without having to play the guitar is so handy.
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That's the coolest thing about it. I was able to play or loop a guitar track, and just play with the knobs on the amp as if someone else was playing. It really makes dialing in a sound almost fun.

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Could you be slamming the input on the amp?
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Yes, that was discussed. Basically, I originally thought I was getting the right level into the amp because there was suprisingly little noise. But even though noise wasn't the problem, the signal was definitely slamming the amp about 14db too hot. I'll give you guys an update when I get the box and I'll re-post this tune. I actually have 4 finished tunes just waiting to re-amp the guitars. Can't wait.
 
Good on the super champ x2 - sounds kinda classy with a super hot input instead of just assy like a lot of amps. I think if we weren't used to the dynamics of your playing, it might not have come up.
 
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