How do I get inspiration for making songs?

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Too many people want to write what sells. Don't. Write for yourself. If you like it other people will too.
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If you TRY to write a "commercial song", it won't work.It will sound contrived. If you try to write a song that's "kind of like (insert your favorite song here", it will never rival that song.

I spent a lot of time doing both of those things years ago. While it was part of the learning process and might have helped me in a way I haven't realized, they were never good songs because nothing about them sounded natural. They weren't me.

I'm not going to say I write good songs now, because that's subjective. But, I like my songs way better ever since I just started trying to write stuff that I thought I would listen to, as oppsed to worrying about whether "this part" sounds like "this artist", etc......

Another thing that helped me, and I still learn from, is recording a cover for every 5 or 6 originals I do. I've never not learned something about either recording, mixing, writing, etc.....by doing a cover. It could also rattle some ideas around that are sitting in your brain.
 
I like my songs way better ever since I just started trying to write stuff that I thought I would listen to, as oppsed to worrying about whether "this part" sounds like "this artist", etc......

Another thing that helped me, and I still learn from, is recording a cover for every 5 or 6 originals I do. I've never not learned something about either recording, mixing, writing, etc.....by doing a cover. It could also rattle some ideas around that are sitting in your brain.

All this X100000000 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
My music taste varies from classic rock to heavy metal, at the moment i'm into Electronica and Synthpop.
I love playing the synthesizer but I can't seem to get any inspiration for music.

On a daily basis when I try to make a song, I sit down behind the keyboard, kinda clueless, hit random notes, try to make it sound right, yet most of the time walk away in disappointment.

I learned scales, and improvisation hoping that would help me.
I also listened to various artists, and tried to figure out the structures of their songs as a foundation for myself.

Can anyone help me? I don't want to give up making music.. but i keep doubting myself.

Thanks Guys, Means a lot
-Dennis

For synth and electro stuff ableton lives a great tool for sketch and getting ideas going...just record a simple eight bar loop, i normally start with a simple beat and bass and just start layering different melodies.

When you get half a dozen tracks start arranging them out and start thinking if how you would arrive at that busy part of the song/tune, is this part the chorus, the verse, the breakdown?

Force yourself to complete simple projects...they may inspire bigger pieces of work

Some of the Brit music mags come with samples and loops...load a loop up, recreate it with your own instrument...see if it gets you going, try midi files, deconstruct your favourite tracks, make drumloops to use later, write synth patches...
 
Just do what all of the pros do ..... purchase a song from a song writer.
 
I find a good method for getting inspired is to go do something that I've never done before. Having a new experience or meeting new people gives good inspiration

Best way to become inspired to makeup music??

Stay ALIVE! Then write sounds that describe that life. Make things up, doesn't have to be a song. Record what you believe a sunrise sounds like if it were a musical instrument. What do the movements of a freeform dancer sound like? What does breaking up with your girlfriend sound like? What does losing your virginity sound like? What does eating a steak dinner sound like? What does wishing for world peace sound like?

Playing with other ppl is terribly underrated.
Saying it is terribly underrated is terribly understated! :thumbs up: Never turn down in invitation to jam with other players, especially players who are willing to show you how to play their cool riffs and chord changes!

3 words:

sex

drugs

rock&roll
It was fun while it lasted, but then what? When the girls leave, the drugs wear off, and the rock n roll becomes monotonous, that's when the real writer in you comes out. ARRRGH! I can't listen to Inna Godda Davida again, I have to make my own sounds or I'm gonna go nuts from that crap. If certain songs or albums only keep your interest while you are stoned, then those are the ones you probably don't want to derive inspiration from. (not judging, been there, done that, BUT......drugs while writing/playing is not much different than drinking and driving! Sure it's entertaining to watch a drunk driver on an obstacle course! But think how much better you can drive when you are sober!)

the statement about doubting yourself, that is key. That's what you need to get past.

Live. Read. Listen {with both ears}. Observe. Think. Consider. Conclude. Take musical risks. Then just do it and hang the consequences.
Self Doubt is the most worthless thing you can hang on to when making up music. A white canvas with a single stroke of red paint on it is far more art worthy than a canvas that is still white and untouched. If nothing else, make coffee and vow to spend the day mastering the art of pitch bender. Throw in some delay to make it interesting. One self-induced project I did was to see how many different delay times I could use and still have each part keeping in time with the drums. Then to make it intersting I used different numbers of bars for each part. 4, 7, 8, and 14 all go evenly into 56, so I had one riff that was 4 beats long, one riff was 7 beats, one 8 beats, and one riff was 16 beats long. every 56 beats the parts would all land on the same downbeat......all with coinciding echoes in time with the music. I called it Echolalia.

if indeed you do have to "force" yourself - perhaps you need to rethink if being a musician is truly what you want.

I completely agree that playing with other people if by far the best way to progress as a musician - and keyboard players are always in demand.

While I do agree that outside stimuli (books, movies, meeting people, etc.) can provide inspiration ......... they is nothing better than continuing to play, experiment with harmonies and rhythms - while in turn will help you hear melodies - and soon, ideas will be flowing.

I do have to agree (to a point) with the poster who suggested that if you have to ask .......... perhaps you are not really ready.
Unfortunate, but true. You should be doing something that you don't have to force yourself to do. I have to force myself to stop playing and go take care of real life some times.

I do have to agree (to a point) with the poster who suggested that if you have to ask .......... perhaps you are not really ready.
Or, the fact that you are asking means you have become ready. Some people think "I don't know" means "I can't" while other people believe that "I don't know" means "Where do I start?"

I still don't agree with this. Many, many times over the last couple of years, I've had the bare skeleton of an idea and filed it away, knowing that I can return to it one day in the future {it might be a month, it might be 6 years} and work it into something. When I say the bare skeleton of an idea, it might be a line or half a riff. I know I can sit down from near enough scratch and come up with something. With the kind of life I have to lead, it becomes par for the course. Discipline and effort aren't difficult once you live there.
I have single lines or riffs that I've had memorized for years, and I practice them religiously because I love playing them and hearing those sounds. Jam with it. Some day when you least expect it another riff will come along and match it. Next thing you know you have a backing part for a verse or a chorus.

Someone else here said to jam with drum tracks. That is an awesome thing to do. You dont have to write every song on your primary instrument. Challenge yourwself to write a song on the drum machine, then create chord changes and bass lines that match the drum track. Write a song on the bass while jamming with drum loops, then find strange new chord progressions that fit the bass line. Experiment, make coffee, eat steak and dark chocolate, then experiment some more. Record everything!


go the 'I can do better than that' route. Bet that would just result in better version of crap tho...
A better version of crap is better than a better version of nothing.

I think that if you're so uninspired that you can't find simple inspiration from whatever is around you then you may be a hopeless cause. Songwriting is easy. Just write a song. It doesn't have to break ground and you don't have to re-invent the wheel. Just write whatever. People don't have to like it. It doesn't have to be good. None of that matters because tastes are subjective and meaningless. IMO inspiration is the easy part. Execution is the hard part. Turning your inspiration and what you hear in your head into an actual song is the work.
Very true and pertinent. Ideas are easy, if you are willing to take the challenge of using whatever comes along. You don't have to write a Mozart concerto your first time out. The hard part is turning your inspiration into a recording with parts and arrangement and instrumentation. There are many more people with inspiration and ideas than there are peopel who can execute andput those ideas into something others cna sit down and listen to.

My short form: Depending on your style, take hallucinogenic drugs or fall in love. The bottom line- DO SOMETHING! Take up martial arts, learn stock car racing, try skydiving. Writing songs does not inspire songwriting. Go pet your cat. Don't you have anything to say to her? Contemplate divorce. Have a heart attack. Go scuba diving. Have a three way with your wife, Faith Hill, and a goat. It doesn't matter what you do. Songs are about life. In order to write them better, it helps to have one. The best thing you can do to write songs is GET A LIFE. And- songwriting is not a life. It's a result of life.
What I've been thinking all along, and here Monroe already said it. A cancer patient wrote a song called "Live Like You Are Dieing" and it was a huge hit.

When I get in a rut I start cranking up the Edgar Winter, Steely Dan, Yes, Led Zeppeling, Beatles, and any fusion or acid jazz album I can find. Try to mimic them without copying them. I get people all the time asking me "Who did that song?" when it was something I did that was merely but deliberately influenced by a classic album.
 
Inspiration?

Get totally crushed by a girl you were head over heels in love with. That usually works pretty well!
 
I'm actually working on a 101+ list for this very thing. One of my favourites is to mess with the rhythm. Say you have a melody on the guitar and it sounds good, but you just don't feel inspired in a way that continues the song. Take that same melody and experiment changing not lengths, taking a note out and throwing in a rest, moving the whole melody back a beat, etc. Just tweaking many different things will help you look at what you're doing differently.
 
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