Horrible and Disgusting Death Metal for the whole family......or not..

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killthepixel said:
And you must also hear this Impaled song: "Rest in faeces"
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Yeah, I am an Impaled fan, I've heard that song.

Ross Sewage nearly burned my hair off spitting fire a little too low at a show one time. :p
 
And yet another metalhead masterpiece dredged from...well from where digested chili dogs go I guess...

Excuse me while I continue playing "catch-up".
 
Hey metalhead28,

I would kill my mother to get a sound like this...God Damn!!!

So the guitar was just the V-amp??? WTF??? Killer sound!!!

What was the BPM for the very fast blast beat? Was it kick, snare, kick, snare or double bass kicks with the snare blasting away?


Peter
 
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Hey dude. Yeah, the V-AMP I used is the rack mount version. I believe I paid $169. So don't kill your mother, just buy one, haha :cool:

For that song, I used my Jackson soloist with a Seymour Duncan full shred pickup (not super high output), tuned down to B, plugged into the V-amp, into my M-Audio sound card, into Sonar. That's it. I used the digital output from the V-Amp, but I think the analog out is just as good.

I've got my settings saved on the V-amp so I'll check those out when I'm at home and post em for you. I know it was the "modern high gain" model and I played around with cabinet settings to get that sound.

All I did to it in my software was put a doubler plug in on it. I only did that becasue I didn't record stereo tracks. That is just one track. If I recorded two tracks I wouldn't have used any plugs. I think I did EQ out a little 500Hz. I'll check. (I just listened to it again....I'm positive I eq'd out a bunch at 500Hz. I'll let you know.)

The fast blasts are 1/8 notes on the kick and snare simultaneously at 300 bpm. I think there are a couple short sections where I double timed the kicks to 1/16 notes.
I kept the snare velocity pretty low during the fast blast sections to try and make it sound a little more realistic. I was imagining Flo Mounier while I was doing those parts. Ever seen his 300+ blast beats? Amazing. :eek:

Later
 
metalhead28 said:
Hey dude. Yeah, the V-AMP I used is the rack mount version. I believe I paid $169. So don't kill your mother, just buy one, haha :cool:
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Ok, I will leave my Mother alone for now!!!

metalhead28 said:
For that song, I used my Jackson soloist with a Seymour Duncan full shred pickup (not super high output), tuned down to B, plugged into the V-amp, into my M-Audio sound card, into Sonar. That's it. I used the digital output from the V-Amp, but I think the analog out is just as good.:
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Would I be able to use my Behringer Eurorack UB802 Mixer with this as well? That would make is allot easier and just plug and unplug things to the mixer and not the computer.

metalhead28 said:
I've got my settings saved on the V-amp so I'll check those out when I'm at home and post em for you. I know it was the "modern high gain" model and I played around with cabinet settings to get that sound.
All I did to it in my software was put a doubler plug in on it. I only did that becasue I didn't record stereo tracks. That is just one track. If I recorded two tracks I wouldn't have used any plugs. I think I did EQ out a little 500Hz. I'll check. (I just listened to it again....I'm positive I eq'd out a bunch at 500Hz. I'll let you know.)
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If you can post the settings you have the V-Amp set with that would be killer. I figured I could use the V-Amp for two of the four guitar tracks (the sound you have) and then two recorded tracks from my Marshall. I think this would add something to my recordings.

metalhead28 said:
The fast blasts are 1/8 notes on the kick and snare simultaneously at 300 bpm. I think there are a couple short sections where I double timed the kicks to 1/16 notes.
I kept the snare velocity pretty low during the fast blast sections to try and make it sound a little more realistic. I was imagining Flo Mounier while I was doing those parts. Ever seen his 300+ blast beats? Amazing.
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A bit confused on the blast... was it

Standard Blast Beat

kick------------kick-----------kick
--------snare----------snare----------snare
ride-------------ride-----------ride


Blast Beat

kick------------kick-----------kick
snare----------snare---------snare
ride-------------ride-----------ride


Double Bass Blast Beat

kick----kick---kick---kick---kick
snare---------snare--------snare
ride-----------ride-----------ride


Peter
 
Well, There is no reason to bring the mixer into play becasue you don't need a pre-amp. Either way, I would recommend using the digital output from the V-amp. That way you just hook it to the digital input on your soundcard and it's always ready to go. That is unless you have another device with a digital output. My V-Amp pro is the only thing I use with a digital out, so it always stays plugged in and it doesn't use up any of my analog inputs.

For the fast blasts the kick and snare hit at exactly the same time. Ride (mostly crashes in this song) I usually do in 1/4 notes, or half time of the snare.

snare---snare---snare---snare---snare---snare---snare---snare
kick-----kick-----kick-----kick----kick-----kick-----kick-----kick
Crash------------crash----------crash------------crash--------

If you watch somebody like Flo Mounier play that beat he would play it with both kicks like this:

snare--snare--snare--snare--snare--snare--snare--snare
kick-----------kick-----------kick-----------kick---------
-------kick-----------kick-----------kick-----------kick
Crash---------crash---------crash----------crash--------

That's the kind of beat I used becasue I actually have a right and left kick in DFHS.
 
Okay, the V-amp settings:

Amp model: "Modern High Gain"
Cabinet Model: #14
Gain: 5 o'clock
Volume: 2 or 3 o'clock (just to get a good recording level)
Bass: 1 o'clock
Mid: 3 o'clock
Treble: 3 o'clock
Reverb: 8 o'clock (just barely on, probably doesn't make any difference)

No effects

In my software a did an cut at 500 hz, about -6 db.

If you double track with the V-Amp it helps alot to use different cabinet models. Actually I wouldn't change anything but the cabinet model becasue that has a huge impact on the tone. With those settings, cabinet numbers 9,10,14,15 all sound pretty cool but alot different.
 
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This is well good. the vocals are amazing. especially the first 'growl' or gutteral. Its well good. Are the drums electronic? You cant really tell which means you did it well. I normally hate songs with electrionic drums like DKFH (being a drummer) haha. But yer sounds good mate. Well done.
 
the fart at the end is a nice touch.

killer track man. love the bass tone, nice and "stringy". drums are good too, what module are you using?
 
I expected a few laughs, but no praise for this track, haha. Thanks alot guys.

The drums are DFHS.
 
metalhead28 said:
Okay, the V-amp settings:

Amp model: "Modern High Gain"
Cabinet Model: #14
Gain: 5 o'clock
Volume: 2 or 3 o'clock (just to get a good recording level)
Bass: 1 o'clock
Mid: 3 o'clock
Treble: o'clock
Reverb: 8 o'clock (just barely on, probably doesn't make any difference)

No effects

In my software a did an cut at 500 hz, about -6 db.

If you double track with the V-Amp it helps alot to use different cabinet models. Actually I wouldn't change anything but the cabinet model becasue that has a huge impact on the tone. With those settings, cabinet numbers 9,10,14,15 all sound pretty cool but alot different.
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Thanks so much dude!!! I copied all the info and once I get the V-Amp I will let you know how it works out.

If you were going to recored using the v-amp and a real miced amp, would you use two tracks of the v-amp panned left and two tracks of the miced amp panned right? I think that might just add something to the song/mix. Any opinions?

I live in an apartment and it is getting harder and harder to mic my amp for recording and thought the v-amp would solve allot of those problems and since the sound you got on this song is from the v-amp I am thinking I might be able to use the v-amp 100% for recording my guitars. If you were to use the v-amp 100% for the guitars would you just change the cabinet model for the 3-4 guitar tracks or use the same cabinet for all the tracks?


Peter
 
Bloodsoaked said:
Thanks so much dude!!! I copied all the info and once I get the V-Amp I will let you know how it works out.

If you were going to recored using the v-amp and a real miced amp, would you use two tracks of the v-amp panned left and two tracks of the miced amp panned right? I think that might just add something to the song/mix. Any opinions?

I live in an apartment and it is getting harder and harder to mic my amp for recording and thought the v-amp would solve allot of those problems and since the sound you got on this song is from the v-amp I am thinking I might be able to use the v-amp 100% for recording my guitars. If you were to use the v-amp 100% for the guitars would you just change the cabinet model for the 3-4 guitar tracks or use the same cabinet for all the tracks?


Peter
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First of all I would put the same thing on both sides of the stereo field. So if I recorded 2 tracks with one sound on the V-Amp I would pan them one left and one right.
If I was using just the V-Amp, I would probably record 2 tracks as mentioned, and then change the cabinet model and record two more tracks and pan them left and right as well. I would never want an unbalanced guitar sound from right to left.
I'd record at least 4 tracks. Maybe 6. You might even try recording 2 of the tracks with alot less gain for clarity's sake.

(I edited my last post becasue I left off the "treble" setting)
 
metalhead28 said:
First of all I would put the same thing on both sides of the stereo field. So if I recorded 2 tracks with one sound on the V-Amp I would pan them one left and one right.
If I was using just the V-Amp, I would probably record 2 tracks as mentioned, and then change the cabinet model and record two more tracks and pan them left and right as well. I would never want an unbalanced guitar sound from right to left.
I'd record at least 4 tracks. Maybe 6. You might even try recording 2 of the tracks with alot less gain for clarity's sake.

(I edited my last post becasue I left off the "treble" setting)
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Cool...I got the treble setting saved now as well.

Right niw when I record my guitar tracks I have 2 paned left and 2 paned right with them all sounding the same from my Marshall amp. Just so I am sure, if I was to use the v-amp you would do the following:

2 tracks with say cabinet 1, 1 paned left, 1 paned right
2 tracks with say cabinet 2, 1 paned left, 1 paned right

That would give an even sound when recorded, is that what your talking about?

WHat you mentioned the unbalanced guitar sound from right to left...what about in a "real" band situation? 2 guitar players with two different sounds, how would these be recorded so not to get an unbalanced sound?


Peter
 
Bloodsoaked said:
Cool...I got the treble setting saved now as well.

Right niw when I record my guitar tracks I have 2 paned left and 2 paned right with them all sounding the same from my Marshall amp. Just so I am sure, if I was to use the v-amp you would do the following:

2 tracks with say cabinet 1, 1 paned left, 1 paned right
2 tracks with say cabinet 2, 1 paned left, 1 paned right

That would give an even sound when recorded, is that what your talking about?

WHat you mentioned the unbalanced guitar sound from right to left...what about in a "real" band situation? 2 guitar players with two different sounds, how would these be recorded so not to get an unbalanced sound?


Peter
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Your description is pretty much exactly what I would do. As far as considering the "real band" thing. If I recorded 2 guitar players I would probably record them through the same rig anyway unless they wanted otherwise. I guess a little difference from left to right might not be a bad thing, but I wouldn't want a totally different sound. Especially if the guitars are playing the same thing. If the guitars were playing very different lines then a different sound might work pretty well. That doesn't happen too often in metal. Even with harmonised parts, I would want the same tone on either side.
 
metalhead28 said:
Your description is pretty much exactly what I would do. As far as considering the "real band" thing. If I recorded 2 guitar players I would probably record them through the same rig anyway unless they wanted otherwise. I guess a little difference from left to right might not be a bad thing, but I wouldn't want a totally different sound. Especially if the guitars are playing the same thing. If the guitars were playing very different lines then a different sound might work pretty well. That doesn't happen too often in metal. Even with harmonised parts, I would want the same tone on either side.
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Cool....thank you!!!
 
metalhead28 said:
Okay, the V-amp settings:

Amp model: "Modern High Gain"
Cabinet Model: #14
Gain: 5 o'clock
Volume: 2 or 3 o'clock (just to get a good recording level)
Bass: 1 o'clock
Mid: 3 o'clock
Treble: 3 o'clock
Reverb: 8 o'clock (just barely on, probably doesn't make any difference)

No effects

In my software a did an cut at 500 hz, about -6 db.

If you double track with the V-Amp it helps alot to use different cabinet models. Actually I wouldn't change anything but the cabinet model becasue that has a huge impact on the tone. With those settings, cabinet numbers 9,10,14,15 all sound pretty cool but alot different.
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You have your volume set at 2 or 3? I can barly get any volume at all with it set that low. Do you have your "Matser" volume set? My Master knob does not seem to do anything at all. All the way up or all the way down it makes no changes at all.

Also, how in the world do you change the cabinets? Anytime I press the cabinet button everything changes and I have no idea where to even change them. The instructions that came with the v-amp do not tell you.


Peter
 
Sound f'n great like usual!! IM NOT WORTHY!! IM NOT WORTHY!!

Love the brutallity


peace.

john
 
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