Help! I have a Diva Client...

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I understand perfectly...

it's just that when it comes to hip-hop, it's a whole differend approach to using samples.

I am NOT saying you don't need to put in any work making a good song out of a -straight-of-the-zero-g-cd sample, it's just that you put in zero effort into finding something suitable and inspiring, neither is it very creative.

Mo-Kay
 
this thread has officially left its course let's keep it clean
your argument is purely subjective in fact so subjective that it's skewed to your personal interest, ( your way of producing is not "the"way of producing, uknawmean? but mine is :D lol, some people get upset when musicians call us non-musician becuase we make electronic music.
moreover others get dissed for using loops or fruity loop because there is minimal work involved, but an aspect (actually the root one might say) of hip hop is working with "found sound" which translate to samples.
so let's not blame the guns and gats but let us look at the consciousness of the mind holding the gat (KRS-ONE)
my interpretation "it doesn't matter where the sound came from. Whether it's from that Earth wind and fire LP or kraftwerk LP or your triton... we still move by the principle of head nodding.

People chime in and contribute ( i know him and i are speaking the exact same language but still , we're are hiphopsters)
 
My $0.02 on it….

It’s in the eye of the beholder……personally I like to find those hidden gems on old LPs that no one has touched yet. Flipping some foreign sample recorded in 1930 and making it hip-hop is what it’s about for me.

I don’t hold anything against people who use sample CDs. I don’t use them personally because I don’t want to flip a sample only to hear it being used on a Tidy Bowl commercial next month.

To the average listener, the origin of the sample doesn’t matter.
 
i dont use sample cd's, mainly because all the samples on them are lame.
most sample cds = a coparations take on hip-hop.
but if theres a gem on a sample cd, go for it.
who cares where a sample came from. crate diggin is cool.
i enjoy sifting through old records at local spots, but its not a "necesity".
shit, i sample bjork, radiohead, ozzy ozzbourn, dosnt matter if it sounds dope.

i think people get caught up in the "essence" of hip-hop.
if everyone stuck to the "essence", it would never preogress.
although, i am certainly not a fan of whats played on TV.
but listen to underground hip-hop heads. innovative new styles that would blow any
big label cat out of the water.

i could go on about this for days, but i'll end it with a quote and a joke...

"heres to being dusty but digital" el-p

"how many hip-hop heads does it take to change a light bulb?
answer: 3, one to do it, and two to argue about how the last one was better"
 
to me, the trick to pop R&B tracks is having ONE SOUND that guides the singers melody
 
shit, i sample bjork, radiohead, ozzy ozzbourn, dosnt matter if it sounds dope.

i think people get caught up in the "essence" of hip-hop.
if everyone stuck to the "essence", it would never preogress



I agree on some people getting caught up n shit....but I don't think it's really musical-ethically sound to sample shit that's only a few years old...


Shit I heard someone the other day, he sampled a friggin justin timberlake track.... you know what I'm saying :confused:
 
I will paraphrase a reiteration of my original post to the thread starter...

If he doesn't have any idea of how to program a commercial RnB tune, then he might want to invest in a ProSamples CD.

I also said that he shouldn't use the samples from the CD. He should, instead, observe some of the tracks on the CD so he will start to understand some of the facets of drum program syncopation of the newer commercial RnB/Hip-Hop beats.

Since he has a "diva" client, he will probably want to grab a well known commercial 60's, 70's or 80's song. He could possibly flip "it" over one of the tracks that he created from the effervescene of what he experienced through the idea generation from the sample CD.

When it comes-down-to-it, it doesn't matter what's used, just as long as the music is created (and sounds good). ;)
 
SPINSTERWUN said:
When it comes-down-to-it, it doesn't matter what's used, just as long as the music is created (and sounds good). ;)

preach on brother, preach on!
 
Mo-Kay said:
I agree on some people getting caught up n shit....but I don't think it's really musical-ethically sound to sample shit that's only a few years old...
Shit I heard someone the other day, he sampled a friggin justin timberlake track.... you know what I'm saying :confused:

i hear you. there is a line. sampling justin timberlake is lame.
you have to find a balance. but i love finding samples in odd places.
my freind made a beat the other day, using a sample he stole from his
nephews baby toy. some little dinosaur you squeez and it plays a song.
he flipped it dopely, and ended up with a nice beat.
 
ethos said:
my freind made a beat the other day, using a sample he stole from his
nephews baby toy. some little dinosaur you squeez and it plays a song.
he flipped it dopely, and ended up with a nice beat.

my point exactemente, a sample is a sample say it with me is a .....
thank you
it's all in the ears of the perceiver (is that a word)
 
:D

Ya'll know how WE do it in this forum........























































We make our own words!!!!!


AND ...... we make them DOPELY, no matter whom the PERCEIVER is....

You only get that kind of FLAVORIZATION in the Hip-Hop Forum! :p

The other forums simply just don't have our type of flavor. :eek:

How should I say it?....... They lack the effervescence and the innervation of our FLAVOROIDS.

They digress as we EGRESS with prodigal expenditures of fabricated and progenerative wordplay.
 
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