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Has anyone heard the BX8s or used them for Hip-Hop? How do they sound against the Mackie HR824s?
bennychico11 said:yes, they are good for home studio use....but it's not really fair to try and compare them to the Mackie's.
The Mackie's will run you $1260 while the M-Audios are $500
More often than not, you get what you pay for.studiomaster said:Why so concerned about the price rather than their quality? Higher price does not necessarily mean higher quality. I say go for the M-audio's.
studiomaster said:Why so concerned about the price rather than their quality? Higher price does not necessarily mean higher quality. I say go for the M-audio's.
TheDewd said:More often than not, you get what you pay for.
We are not in a society where everything is equal yet.
In fact, my primary tool for deciding if an audio product is good, is reading the specs. Then checking schematics and assessing the quality of the engineering that took part. Then inspect the parts used.Zed10R said:So if MAudio doubled the price of their BX8's, you like them? If Gibson made a $2000 balsa wood guitar would you like it? That's flawed logic at best. Use your ears to determins what is good. Pricetags don't indicate anything of consequence....except who is a sucker for paying more $$ just for a brand name.
COOLCAT said:Specs are a good start. They usually come from an anechoic chamber with a RTA hooked up.
Companys with some integrity, imo, print real specs. JBL comes to mind as they have graphs that aren't all that pretty, but allows someone who actually looks at the stuff to make a more educated decision.
But then you get the speakers home...and your not in the anechoic chamber.
So then I was left with, finding something I liked to hear and checking mixes on other systems.
Then some minor room acoustics work. Some handheld DB meters and manually plotting started showing some data.
Still second guessing my ears? and threads from people using THEIR ears in THEIR rooms and posting whats FLAT or Non-Flat...
MShilarious luckily turned me onto some basic RTA, real time analyzer, stuff.
It was cheap, but imo, better than the handheld DB meters.
There I saw my monitors, in my room, basicaly making and printing my own spec sheets... and it's a fun thing to do if you like that stuff.
I called it fine-tweaking, adjusting things around.
and someone said I needed high-end RTA stuff to be real...but DEWD if you like specs, I highly recommend you do a RTA...you'll probably love it!
and it will be your spec sheet in your room on your monitors!
and then when you burn your CD mix...and pop it in the cardeck..its back to your ears...had to throw that in there somewhere.
think I'll go play with my subwoofer....peace
TheDewd said:Well, this is one of the reasons I mix with high quality headphone systems. They take the room out of the equation and allow me to put my hard-earned money into something else than $100k room treatment.
Indeed, according to me, it serves no purpose to use monitors in an unperfect room, since the engineers designed those tools to be flat in ideal conditions as you said. Thus, you have to make your room as ideal as possible so you can enjoy the magics of USA made and born engineering.
I must add that the fact your are into room treatment honors you. People should definitely spend more time establishing a "as flat as possible" monitoring environment. Look, it's much better to use ASIAN monitors in a TREATED room than Mackies in an untreated room. In that sense, I full agree.
I'm a pro at creating a demand for a productThunder33 said:I really wish you would post some headhone mixes.
Hmmmm....and most people listen to music with their ears......go figure....TheDewd said:but ears are about the worst intruments for determining if something is flat and accurate. Don't even get me started on that..I'm boiling!
Listening to music as an enjoyment is different than listening to music for accuracy and flatness, something which the ear can't do well. When you buy monitors, you don't enjoy music, you want flatness and accuracy. And if you think flat monitors sound bad, you have to readjust your hearing to what IS in scientific proof, flat.Dogman said:Hmmmm....and most people listen to music with their ears......go figure....
Ok, so what you are saying is, If I put my favorite cd on, and listen to my monitors, it should sound flat, and not as good as on my home stereo?TheDewd said:Listening to music as an enjoyment is different than listening to music for accuracy and flatness, something which the ear can't do well. When you buy monitors, you don't enjoy music, you want flatness and accuracy. And if you think flat monitors sound bad, you have to readjust your hearing to what IS in scientific proof, flat.
Yep! Assuming you have decent monitors and a decent room.Dogman said:Ok, so what you are saying is, If I put my favorite cd on, and listen to my monitors, it should sound flat, and not as good as on my home stereo?