Hanging a V67?

[cordura21]

Just wonder what to do if you want to put a Marshall V67 pointed to the floor. Would jou hun it from the cable, or will that damage it?

 

[shadowfax]

XLR connectors lock, so i dont think it would damage anything, but it's very possible i'm wrong.

 

[memriloc]

Floor???...

Wacha recording?....Must be realy down to earth music...Is a stand no good for what you're doin'?

 

[cordura21]

Not on the floor, I mean at forehead height but pointing down, like in the studios. So I have eye contact with the singer, without the mic in between.

 

[memriloc]

Cool...Then I reckon an easy solution would be just to get a good SOLID boom stand raise the base as high as you can then drop the boom down to the right level, comming in from the right or left...It's worked for me....hope it helps...

 

[littledog]

Not on the floor, I mean at forehead height but pointing down, like in the studios. So I have eye contact with the singer, without the mic in between.

If you put a mic in the inverted position for singing, and if the diaphragm is at approx. mouth level, then the body of the mic will block your eye contact with the singer far more than if it is mounted diaphragm-up, which would mean there would be very little or nothing any higher than the singers nose. So unless you were lying on the floor, that would be the way to have the most eye contact.

Why you see mics hung upside down in studios largely dates back to when old tube mics were used, and the tubes would generate heat. By mounting them in an inverted postion the tube heat would not pass over and effect the diaphragm as it rose, as the diaphragm would be under the tubes in that position.

Most mics today don't care which way they are mounted. Some folks think the inverted position is still better for vocals because the air flow won't bounce off the body of the mic. But the real reason most people use the inverted position is because it looks "cooler".

 

[darrin_h2000]

I have several mic flanges connected to my cieling with flexable booms hanging from them. The whole point is to keep from having stands getting in the way all of the time.

 

[heylow]

But Dog....

It...DOES...look cooler!

 

[cordura21]

thanks for the explanation LittleDog, I really appreciate it.

 

[Badger]

Does anybody else see a problem with hanging from the cable, like how would you keep it pointed where you wanted it. You could get some really insteresting sounds with it twisting in the wind so to speak, but I doubt thats what you were looking for

 

[Michael Jones]

Does anybody else see a problem with hanging from the cable, like how would you keep it pointed where you wanted it. You could get some really insteresting sounds with it twisting in the wind so to speak, but I doubt thats what you were looking for

Yeah, I agree, it would be swinging around a lot. Not a good thing.

If you want to use the mic in the inverted position, then get a good boom stand, and proper shock mount.

 

[kjam22]

I've got two drum overheads hanging from the ceiling. I've not had any problem. Screwed some hooks in the ceiling above the kit and ran the cable through the hooks etc. Typically they point straight down at strategic places over the kit. But I have angled them by tying string around ends of mic and tying to a second hook... pulling the business ends up to the angle and direction as needed. No problem with them swinging. I don't hit them... and they don't move. Ceiling has a fake beam in the center of it going from one end of the room to the other. I ran the mic cables through (inside) the fake beam from one end to the other. (drums are at one end.... and recording/mixing stuff at the other) Nice clean set up that makes the cables permanently in place, and out of the way.

The idea about mounting flexible booms..... (we used to call them goose necks) to the ceiling is a good idea if the desired positioning can be attained. I may look at that idea for my applicaton.

 

[cordura21]

Yeah, I agree, it would be swinging around a lot. Not a good thing.

If you want to use the mic in the inverted position, then get a good boom stand, and proper shock mount.

I am making myself a shockmount, but I don't know how to keep the V67 from falling (other than puting some pressure on the mic).

 

[Badger]

a shockmount for a 2001 will work, though not well. I have one I used to use, until I got a correct one for my v67

 

[cordura21]

from the shape of the microphone, I can't imagine how it stays put without falling.

 

[tdukex]

Why you see mics hung upside down in studios largely dates back to when old tube mics were used, and the tubes would generate heat. By mounting them in an inverted postion the tube heat would not pass over and effect the diaphragm as it rose, as the diaphragm would be under the tubes in that position.

Would this still apply to today's tube mics? Should they be mounted upside down just in case?