Guitar speakers?

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Im looking for a new set of 4x12 speakers for my Marshall 1960 cab.

Im looking for a clean and clear sound for a hard rock/metal guitar.

Any suggestions?
Cheers,

Eck
 
I found these they seem maybe like what IM looking for although I dont know much about speakers.

http://www.proacousticsusa.com/productdetail.php?pId=2461

They say they have smooth distortion, rich harmonics, warm undertones and high end sparkle. Although none of the speakers I have looked at have said anything about clarity. :eek:

Usable Bandwidth (Fs to -3dB): 70Hz - 5.5kHz
Is that not pretty bad that it only has a useable bandwidth up to 5.5k?

Eck
 
I haven't tried emeince. I have tried the Jensen Mod12 speakers and they rock with my mesa amp. They sound much better that my stock 1960b cab. Plus they are about half the price of the celestions. I could give you some samples if you would like. Just let me know.
 
Yeah if its not a hassle that would be great!
Do you know much about useable bandwidth of speakers?

My Celestion G12T-75 Speaker 8 Ohm that I got with my Marshall 1960 cab only have a bandwidth of 85Hz to 5k.

Cheers
Eck
 
The low note on a standard guitar is about 84 Hz, and the harmonics on a high E string go up to around 6 KHz, so these speaker bandwidths are fine for most guitar applications.

You might get a little drop off with a 7 string guitar, but even that will work fine with most speakers. When you double and quadruple speakers, you get some "mutual coupling", which extends the bottom end a bit.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
The low note on a standard guitar is about 84 Hz, and the harmonics on a high E string go up to around 6 KHz, so these speaker bandwidths are fine for most guitar applications.

You might get a little drop off with a 7 string guitar, but even that will work fine with most speakers. When you double and quadruple speakers, you get some "mutual coupling", which extends the bottom end a bit.
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Thanks for the info.
I was just worrying because when I mix my recorded guitars I lo pass at around 8-12k.
Cheers,
Eck
 
ecktronic said:
Yeah if its not a hassle that would be great!
Do you know much about useable bandwidth of speakers?

My Celestion G12T-75 Speaker 8 Ohm that I got with my Marshall 1960 cab only have a bandwidth of 85Hz to 5k.

Cheers
Eck
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I know not about bandwidth etc.. But a sample is all ready made. I am going home for lunch and I will upload it for you.

What type of amp/guitar are you using?
 
Harvey Gerst said:
The low note on a standard guitar is about 84 Hz, and the harmonics on a high E string go up to around 6 KHz, so these speaker bandwidths are fine for most guitar applications.

You might get a little drop off with a 7 string guitar, but even that will work fine with most speakers. When you double and quadruple speakers, you get some "mutual coupling", which extends the bottom end a bit.
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Not to mention the fact that the fundamental isn't the loudest part of a guitar sound, it's the harmonic an octave up that tends to be the percieved low end.
 
gcapel said:
I know not about bandwidth etc.. But a sample is all ready made. I am going home for lunch and I will upload it for you.

What type of amp/guitar are you using?
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Nice one.
Im using the Marshall JCM2000 DSL50 amp through 1960 cab and PRS McCarty Soapbar.

Eck
 
http://users.ctc.net/garrock/sample.wav

This was using a mesa DC-5 head, a gibson SG-I (500T), and a homeade 2x12 cab(modeled after the marshall jcm cab) loaded with jesen mod12 35 watt speakers.

It was recorded with a sm57 about 1-2 feet away from the speaker center with the amp cranked in a dead room. I used a vintech 1272 mic pre going straight into cubase via the RME multiface II. No plugins or anything. The only thing i did was bring up the volume in soundforge.

this recording was just to get a song idea down.
 
The notes sound quite clear.
Im going to find it hard to pick the right speaker as even from a recording there are so many variables.
Bah. :(

Cheers though, much appricated for putting up the sample.

Eck
 
I'm considering doing the same thing with a 1960. Celestion Vintage 30s are a popular choice.

I'd have to concur that bandwidth will likely have nothing to do with whether you like the sound.
 
I thought the Celestions were the std speaker used in the high end Marshall cabinets. I have one in a Supersonic combo and it sounds great so I guess 4 would sound 4 times better. Actually I have a thread floating around here inquiring about a Vintage Carvin open back cabinet. One resonse stated that they thought Carvin used Celestions. All I'm looking at is a 2 12" enclosure and with speakers it almost as cheap as buy 2 Vintage 30s alone.
 
ecktronic said:
The notes sound quite clear.
Im going to find it hard to pick the right speaker as even from a recording there are so many variables.
Bah. :(

Cheers though, much appricated for putting up the sample.

Eck
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That is for sure. That marshall sounds nothing like my amp. As well with the guitar. It's one of those things were you just have to test drive if you can.
 
gcapel said:
That is for sure. That marshall sounds nothing like my amp. As well with the guitar. It's one of those things were you just have to test drive if you can.
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Yeah. Cant really test drive. :(
Think Ill try and get as much response of different speakers as I can then make a decision. :)

Cheers,
Eck
 
I switched from the G12T-75's to Vintage 30's and I couldn't be happier.

They are probably the most popular choice for rock / metal.
 
metalhead28 said:
I switched from the G12T-75's to Vintage 30's and I couldn't be happier.

They are probably the most popular choice for rock / metal.
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Vintage 30's are great for rock/metal guitar. Probably my #1 choice. I don't think the G12T-75's are too bad either though, but I like the V30's better.
 
With high gain amps I tend to like a speaker like the Eminence Tonker, Wizzard, Texas Heat etc.. I like the speaker to produce what the amp is feeding it without a lot of speaker break up. High wattage speakers seem to give me a better tighter feel. I like the speaker to move air and stay defined at loud volumes. It's all subjective as some guys like low wattage speakers that break up. The quest for tone continues!!
 
mike2731 said:
Vintage 30's are great for rock/metal guitar. Probably my #1 choice. I don't think the G12T-75's are too bad either though, but I like the V30's better.
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This is my feeling also, while switching to V30's was nice the g12t's aren't bad at all and perfectly useable. I've found the room, mic placement, and quality of both the guitar and player to be more important than what speaker was being used. I've captured plenty of very crappy guitar tones with the exact setup I use to capture great ones.
 
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