Guitar shopping for young novice

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My 16 year old son has been playing my old acoustic guitar for months now, he's starting to get pretty good. He wants to buy an electric now, but I'm a drummer, I have no idea how to shop for a good but cheap guitar. His budget is $250. My biggest concern is to get one that's got easy action and plays in tune all over the neck. Can you get something like that for this kind of money?
 
don't overlook secondhand, it could be "played in" and save you a bundle.
 
Is he also trying to get an amp in that $250?

Clive has a good idea in going used, sometimes you can get great deals. I once got an American made Peavey Fretless bass for $125, barely played because the guy wanted the money and never figured out how to play it. Another thing is pawn shops will often lower their asking price for stuff if you have hard cash in your hands. I have seen guitars they are asking $300 for, go for $175 - $200 when cash is presented. The thing you have to watch out for in either of these cases is that the guitar is in tune and the neck hasn't warped, so make sure he test drives them right there. The other thing is make sure your not getting ripped off by buying a mexican, chinese, taiwan, or korean model of a "brand name" guitar for $250 used, because you can get them for new for less at music stores.

If you go to the music store they often have deals where for $200 you can get a Squier Strat or some comparable guitar AND a small practice amp. Sometimes for a little more, sometimes for a little less. The thing with these guitars is they are all made from the places mentioned above and the quality just is not there. They don't sound as good, they don't feel as good, and they don't play as good as their american made versions. But at $400 less than the american models they can be great for beginners. He would probably outgrow the guitar and want a better sounding one within a year or two if he sticks with it. You can get effect boxes and stuff to try to make them sound better but you know the old expression...you put makeup on a pig and it's still a pig. Also the re-sale value on these cheaper guitars is horrible unless you find someone who doesn't know any better.

If it were me looking long term I would patiently keep my eyes out for a used american made guitar. I think long term you kid would be happier. But if you need the amp thrown in the package and having a new guitar is important to him, then those cheaper packages may be the way to go. Good Luck.
 
When buying any guitar, you'll want to look at the fit of the neck to the body. It should be snug with no gaps. Also, look at the way the strings lay. There sould be the same amount of space between the side of the fretboard and the string on both sides.

It wouldn't hurt to plug the guitar into a cromatic tuner and check that each fret plays the notes it should. Don't expect them to be perfect, part of the charm of the guitar is that it's never in perfect tune. But, it should be very close.

If you go for a used guitar, you'll need to take a close look at the frets. If they are worn down it may need a fret job and you'll want to remember that when you haggle about the price.

A few months ago, I bought my son (he's 10) a Squier Strat and a 10 watt Marshall amp. I paid about $250.00 for that rig.
 
please educate me

its suggested that the dude look for a used american made strat (or tele i suppose) in the 250 dollar range...i have seen them go for 450 bucks

we're talking about a guitar that sells for over a grand

the used mexican counterparts sell pretty easily for 200 to 250 bucks

we're talking about a 349 dollar guitar....so.....

please educate me on the horrible resale value of mex strats and the fantastic investment opportunities of american strats

the math don't back up the claims
 
You can't just walk out and buy an american strat for $250 on any streetcorner, I'm talking about watching out for a deal that usually comes through the classified ads in your local area, or some pawn shops. These don't happen every day or even every month, but I have gotten two quality guitars this way, and I rarely even look at the classifieds.

On the other side, GC frequently has a sale with a Squier and a practice amp and it's for less than $200 I think. I was just saying if he had a few months of leeway he could look for a real deal, or if time was of importance he get get one of those GC deals.

And for resale value, I resold one of the guitars I bought this way. It was a Gibson and I paid $190 for it, resold it for $600 and bought a Fender Strat with that money. I just happened to be the first person to respond to ads where people wanted to sell their guitars fast so they had them underpriced.

I didn't mean to post a confusing response, sorry if the first post wasn't clear.
 
All the ads here have are pianos.

Go to music-yo.com They have great cheap guitars, I have a kramer focus and a kramer pacer from them, and they are awesome. my favorite guitars i've played. You can get packages with them for under $200
 
That was a good deal Gidge posted, I have played a couple of Pacificas and was surprised at the quality, it was way better than I expected.
 
Gidge said:
http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/searchresults.music?z=1419405368777&l=1&b=p&w=pacifica

you wont find a new guitar under $300 that will sound and play as good as this $149 guitar.....

combine that with a small Peavey amp and he's in business........

I third the Pacifica.

Regarding the Peavey amp, you can get great ones and you can get crap ones. Caveat emptor. E.g., my first two amps were a Peavey Backstage and a Peavey Studio Pro. Both were crap. I have since owned a Bravo, a 5150, and a RockMaster. All Peavey, all good. Now I play Mesa/Boogie, but still use the Bravo.
 
the Pacifica 112 will sound and play as good as any $300-$400 Mexican Strat and while most American Strats will be better, Yamaha smokes it in cost/performance ratio......
 
If you hit e-bay or something you will find droves of Ibanez deals. The EX or RX generally fall in the affordable $100-150 range. The resale value of an Ibanez truely sucks. Bad news for the seller.....good news for buyer. Everyone and their brother want a damned strat or Les paul so all the other used guitars made by other companys are a poor sale income.

I wager if you take a poll, most will agree that few necks can compare to an Ibanez.
 
Gidge is right - there ain't nothing can compare in the price/value stakes to a Pacifica.

I used to run a large guitar store - Pacifica routinely kicks everything else in it's price range in the ass, and many guitars up to double or more, too!


. . . and I also second the Peavey amp idea. You will come in at or under your budget and get good gear.

The Pacifica/Peavey rig is what I got for my 16 year old nephew:)

Now he's eighteen, in a band and wants a PRS Goldtop :)

. . . and he can play so he's getting one!

:D

foo
 
take a look at musicyo.com they sale Kramer guitars, verry good guitars for the buck.

they have low end to hi end.

Dave
 
I have an older Yamaha Pacifica 921; it was a higher end model, at the time, in the Pacifica line... I love the guitar. It plays beautifully. I've played the 112, and the one I played felt real nice; better than any Squier I've ever played (not to say the Squier isn't a good novice level guitar, because it is - but the Pacifica is better)... Or a good used find is always an option, if you are so fortunate to stumble upon one!:cool:
 
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