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Big Kenny
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still waiting for my ribbons....
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RightOnMusic
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Hey, I guess I missed this the first time around, but could someone link me to the CafePress site? I just tried searching their site and I couldn't find TnC!
Thanks.
Edit: NM!! Found them!
great... ANOTHER shirt we'll probably end up wearing to the same place on the same day...
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drBill
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Hey Chance!!! Yes I tried racking them in another rack and had the same problems. I had to use an 8 space rack to mount 6 of them. 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP. I think something is going on, because I couldn't even wedge a blank panel into the blank spaces.
Something funny going on.....Did I tell you these guys are HEAVY???!!!??? 6 of them in 1 rack with the rack being made of wood and the thing is close to 100, yes that's right ONE HUNDRED pounds. The pre's with no wiring and no rack are right at 85 lbs.
I can only lift it a few inches off the floor to put it on a dolly to move around. I need an assistant. Anybody got a strong back and want to intern??? 
Not very. I had them on for a couple of hours stacked 4 next to each other with no spaces and they were just warm, not hot at all. I wouldn't worry about it.
Did I mention these were heavy????
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chris carter
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Hey Chance!!! Yes I tried racking them in another rack and had the same problems. I had to use an 8 space rack to mount 6 of them. 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP. I think something is going on, because I couldn't even wedge a blank panel into the blank spaces.
Hmmmm... this could suck. I have three spaces left in my rack and I need a gap above a tube compressor which means that my two 81s will have to fit between other gear. I will have to pray on this and hope for divine intervention.....
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chance
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Hey Chance!!! Yes I tried racking them in another rack and had the same problems. I had to use an 8 space rack to mount 6 of them. 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP, 1 blank, 2 ACMP. I think something is going on, because I couldn't even wedge a blank panel into the blank spaces.
Did I tell you these guys are HEAVY???!!!??? 6 of them in 1 rack with the rack being made of wood and the thing is close to 100, yes that's right ONE HUNDRED pounds. The pre's with no wiring and no rack are right at 85 lbs.
Not very. I had them on for a couple of hours stacked 4 next to each other with no spaces and they were just warm, not hot at all. I wouldn't worry about it.
Did I mention these were heavy????
Hey Bill
Do you mind me copy/paste some of your posts to PSW?
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drBill
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NOt at all. Maybe I should sign up and paste my whole two long posts over there??
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P. Glaser
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Hey Doc. Could you put a caliper on them and give us an exact measurement of the height? Might could be that a quick brush with a belt sander might be all that's needed. Aluminum does not grind well but a hit or two with fine grit might do it. Of course it would mess up the paint but if you're careful and touched it up a bit it might not be noticeable. Just a thought. (I knew there was a reason I only got one) LOL
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drBill
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Hey Doc. Could you put a caliper on them and give us an exact measurement of the height? Might could be that a quick brush with a belt sander might be all that's needed. Aluminum does not grind well but a hit or two with fine grit might do it. Of course it would mess up the paint but if you're careful and touched it up a bit it might not be noticeable. Just a thought. (I knew there was a reason I only got one) LOL
Maybe someone else can do it. Those babies are IN the rack now, and it weighs an unbelieveable amount and I just don't want to mess with it anymore......
vicenzajay
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Hmmm....
Yeah - this rackmount construct actually presents a real problem as far as overall studio planning goes. Guess I'll plan for a 6-space and call it good. If they sound as nice as it seems they might (per DrBill's post), the juice will be worth the squeeze.
I am perplexed at why they would not get rack-spacing correct, though. It's not as if this is the first Chinese-made rackmount audio product...
Of course, if they are as heavy as DrBill reports, perhaps having that extra 1/2 space gap will allow better leverage for mounting them as well as connections, etc.
Jay
Hey Doc. Could you put a caliper on them and give us an exact measurement of the height? Might could be that a quick brush with a belt sander might be all that's needed. Aluminum does not grind well but a hit or two with fine grit might do it. Of course it would mess up the paint but if you're careful and touched it up a bit it might not be noticeable. Just a thought. (I knew there was a reason I only got one) LOL
Yeah - this rackmount construct actually presents a real problem as far as overall studio planning goes. Guess I'll plan for a 6-space and call it good. If they sound as nice as it seems they might (per DrBill's post), the juice will be worth the squeeze.
I am perplexed at why they would not get rack-spacing correct, though. It's not as if this is the first Chinese-made rackmount audio product...
Of course, if they are as heavy as DrBill reports, perhaps having that extra 1/2 space gap will allow better leverage for mounting them as well as connections, etc.
Jay
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chance
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That would be prefered
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chance
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I've had a few things that are slowing the shipping process down. For example, there will be similar orders from a Mike Smith, and Bill Smith. Then I get a payment from a Mary Smith. Without spending a LOT of time researching each order, I have no way of knowing who Mary is related to. There are many "Smith's, Mills, and Jones. I am basically just getting up to speed and have run into this twice so far. We have about 50 boxes that are shipping on Thursday. The first of many.
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LeperKing
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Hi Chance,
Would you be able to estimate on the rate of invoices been sent. ie. approx 5 per day with 40/400 done to to date? Gives everyone an idea of the how long this will all take.
Thanks,
LK.
Would you be able to estimate on the rate of invoices been sent. ie. approx 5 per day with 40/400 done to to date? Gives everyone an idea of the how long this will all take.
Thanks,
LK.
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chance
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Thats a hard call, because as we progress, we'll get faster. There are so many variables.
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P. Glaser
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I think we all really appreciate the hard work involved, Chance. A big Thank You! I don't know how you're doing it. Seems like you're normally pretty busy with just the studio! 
BTW, were you able to verify that all the payments are coming into your account and not PayPal? Thanks.
Paul
BTW, were you able to verify that all the payments are coming into your account and not PayPal? Thanks.
Paul
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chance
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I think we all really appreciate the hard work involved, Chance. A big Thank You! I don't know how you're doing it. Seems like you're normally pretty busy with just the studio!
BTW, were you able to verify that all the payments are coming into your account and not PayPal? Thanks.
Paul
Yes. I just checked the auto-close, and things are running smooth. There are still a few that have not paid.
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drBill
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I tried several tiimes, but PSW is not sending me my email confirmation, so I can't get on.
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drBill
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Chance and others -
Just an update on the rack spacing thing as I see many on PSW seem to have the wrong impression and I can't seem to log on there or get registered for whatever reason.
I have tried TWO commercially built racks, and neither of them will house more than 3 ACMP's stacked right on top of each other. Dremeling out the holes may work for the 3rd unit, but by the time you get to the 5th or 6th unit, you will be completely thru the faceplate. It's THAT far off.
I feel like I'm in some weird episode of the Twilight Zone. I've built or helped build many many studio's in my life, with rack gear numbering in the hundreds, and I've never run into a problem quite like this.
Maybe both these racks have weird spacing on the holes. One seems equidistant, and the other has some subtle differences in the spacing, (not like the picture shown by chance) but both have the same issue. But I really don't think that the spacinig of the holes is the complete issue, because I cheated the top units all the way towards the top, and the bottom units all the way towards the bottom, and I couldn't even WEDGE a blank spacer inbetween them. Maybe if I wasn't worried about scratching them I could have taken a hammer and knocked it in, but I chose not to do that.
My solution was 2 units, space, repeat - no blanks in the spaces.
Am I missing something here??
I generally use pre-fab HARDWOOD rack rails when possible (for superior ground isolation issues) and have never had this problem, but these are going into a portable (kinda, but it's HEAVY. Did I mention these were HEAVY???) rack that needs metal rails.
At this point I have about (10) 20 space racks filled in my studio - no problems other than the normal tight fits. So.........am I in the twighlight zone and if so, how do I get out???
PS - maybe someone can post this over on PSW thread to help out.
bp
Just an update on the rack spacing thing as I see many on PSW seem to have the wrong impression and I can't seem to log on there or get registered for whatever reason.
I have tried TWO commercially built racks, and neither of them will house more than 3 ACMP's stacked right on top of each other. Dremeling out the holes may work for the 3rd unit, but by the time you get to the 5th or 6th unit, you will be completely thru the faceplate. It's THAT far off.
I feel like I'm in some weird episode of the Twilight Zone. I've built or helped build many many studio's in my life, with rack gear numbering in the hundreds, and I've never run into a problem quite like this.
Maybe both these racks have weird spacing on the holes. One seems equidistant, and the other has some subtle differences in the spacing, (not like the picture shown by chance) but both have the same issue. But I really don't think that the spacinig of the holes is the complete issue, because I cheated the top units all the way towards the top, and the bottom units all the way towards the bottom, and I couldn't even WEDGE a blank spacer inbetween them. Maybe if I wasn't worried about scratching them I could have taken a hammer and knocked it in, but I chose not to do that.
My solution was 2 units, space, repeat - no blanks in the spaces.
Am I missing something here??
I generally use pre-fab HARDWOOD rack rails when possible (for superior ground isolation issues) and have never had this problem, but these are going into a portable (kinda, but it's HEAVY. Did I mention these were HEAVY???
) rack that needs metal rails.At this point I have about (10) 20 space racks filled in my studio - no problems other than the normal tight fits. So.........am I in the twighlight zone and if so, how do I get out???
PS - maybe someone can post this over on PSW thread to help out.
bp
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chris carter
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Hmmmm…. This is sounding like I might be waiting a few weeks for my pres. I’m in Santa Clarita. Anyone else out here in the desert that would like to split the gas, save a tree, and carpool? If so, PM me or e-mail me at chrisproducer(remove this text and put an "@")gmail(put a "." here)com.
Crash80
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Chance and others -
Just an update on the rack spacing thing as I see many on PSW seem to have the wrong impression and I can't seem to log on there or get registered for whatever reason.
I have tried TWO commercially built racks, and neither of them will house more than 3 ACMP's stacked right on top of each other. Dremeling out the holes may work for the 3rd unit, but by the time you get to the 5th or 6th unit, you will be completely thru the faceplate. It's THAT far off.
I feel like I'm in some weird episode of the Twilight Zone. I've built or helped build many many studio's in my life, with rack gear numbering in the hundreds, and I've never run into a problem quite like this.
Maybe both these racks have weird spacing on the holes. One seems equidistant, and the other has some subtle differences in the spacing, (not like the picture shown by chance) but both have the same issue. But I really don't think that the spacinig of the holes is the complete issue, because I cheated the top units all the way towards the top, and the bottom units all the way towards the bottom, and I couldn't even WEDGE a blank spacer inbetween them. Maybe if I wasn't worried about scratching them I could have taken a hammer and knocked it in, but I chose not to do that.
My solution was 2 units, space, repeat - no blanks in the spaces.
Am I missing something here??
I generally use pre-fab HARDWOOD rack rails when possible (for superior ground isolation issues) and have never had this problem, but these are going into a portable (kinda, but it's HEAVY. Did I mention these were HEAVY???
At this point I have about (10) 20 space racks filled in my studio - no problems other than the normal tight fits. So.........am I in the twighlight zone and if so, how do I get out???
PS - maybe someone can post this over on PSW thread to help out.
bp
Hey drBill, can you take some measurements with some other piece of gear and see what is weird? I posted this over at PSW for you FYI.
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chance
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LOL so did I.
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