Green,Angry Man(Handy Dandy Entity Mix)

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queepy

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After a few weeks without being able to play/record much due to kids school functions, soccer, PTA meetings, cub scouts etc... I've been really itching to jam a bit....here is something I tracked yesterday with a bunch of pseudo cosmic gibberish type lyrics ...

wondering how it sounds to fresh ears, any feedback much appreciated...

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7405493&q=hi
 
Wow, queepy. This is really good stuff. Love all the guitar tones and textures mixed in. Love the lyrics. Sounds like the town I live in. Great breakout guitar riff towards the end. Vocals sound a bit thick and chunky, which you may have intended. Welcome back from the PTA/Soccer/carpool world.
 
Wow, queepy. This is really good stuff. Love all the guitar tones and textures mixed in. Love the lyrics. Sounds like the town I live in. Great breakout guitar riff towards the end. Vocals sound a bit thick and chunky, which you may have intended. Welcome back from the PTA/Soccer/carpool world.


Hey thanks guitar zero....I have a sound in my head vor the vocals and am having a lot of trouble(as usual :o) getting there...just uploaded a new mix with the vocals a little cleare...but I still think they are kinda "thick"...

heres a link:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7405493&q=hi
 
Seems like the vocals would stand out better if they were panned more to the center, away from the guitars panned left and right. Sounds like they're occupying the same space, and competing with each other. I think the vocals sound better though.
 
Sweet!!!

I freaking LOVE this song!!! :D:D:D

I don't think that you've got the vocals JUST RIGHT, yet, but the second mix was better than the first. I agree with GuitarZero...I think the vocals should be centered more. They seem a little buried and dark.


I can't stop listening to it. :D:D

Great vibe on this song. Once again I love it.

D
 
This track just proves the point that it's the sound of words that often makes a rock song a classic - not the meaning, the subtext or the intention - if the syllables sound good then you're ahead - mind you it helps that these lyrics are surrealistic expressions that catch half formed phrases from the broken strands of a dream catcher hung a little above & to the left of charlie manson's halitosis drenched life space.
Oh, I LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! More please!
 
Absolutely great, Queep,

Great guitar tones and the bass and drums are right in the pocket. Love that growl of the bass, man.

The lyrics are very cool, no nits there.

My only (possible) nit is the doubling of the vox at :40 and 1:42. It's distracting. Did you clone the tracks, pan them wide and shift one of them 1 frame? Just a guess.

Cool song. Makes you want to listen over again.

Wig:)
 
guitar zero : Seems like the vocals would stand out better if they were panned more to the center, away from the guitars panned left and right. Sounds like they're occupying the same space, and competing with each other. I think the vocals sound better though.

Good idea, I do have 2 mono tracks panned hard left and right and just a tad out of alignment with each other...I am going to retrack them , hopefully today, as I have wrote out my missing verse, and will definitely try for a clearer sound...

dastrick : Sweet!!!I freaking LOVE this song!!!
I don't think that you've got the vocals JUST RIGHT, yet, but the second mix was better than the first. I agree with GuitarZero...I think the vocals should be centered more. They seem a little buried and dark.
I can't stop listening to it.
Great vibe on this song. Once again I love it.
D

Thanks dastrick, glad ya dug it...I will work on those "vocals" and the panning issues.


rayc This track just proves the point that it's the sound of words that often makes a rock song a classic - not the meaning, the subtext or the intention - if the syllables sound good then you're ahead - mind you it helps that these lyrics are surrealistic expressions that catch half formed phrases from the broken strands of a dream catcher hung a little above & to the left of charlie manson's halitosis drenched life space.
Oh, I LIKE THIS!!!!!!!! More please!

Hey Ray, I've always the spoken word vibe/phrasing of Frank Zappa in much of his tunes (Montana, Dirty Love etc...) I just don't have that cool of a voice to pull it off...the other sound I would love to capture is something like Boris Karloff's narration of The Grinch cartoon...
Cool ( and a little disturbing :p) description of the lyrics...actually that description may be a cool song topic itself! :D
Glad ya liked it buddy, thanks for listening!


Xeries Absolutely great, Queep,
Great guitar tones and the bass and drums are right in the pocket. Love that growl of the bass, man.
The lyrics are very cool, no nits there.
My only (possible) nit is the doubling of the vox at :40 and 1:42. It's distracting. Did you clone the tracks, pan them wide and shift one of them 1 frame? Just a guess.
Cool song. Makes you want to listen over again.

Thanks Xeries...this actually grew from me just jamming with my Bass to some drum loops.....kinda different way for me to write...I usually come up with stuff on the guitar 1st , then add bass/vocals etc... I just love this Rickenbacker bass !
Those vocal points you mention, I actually copied the tracks at those points and added a pitch shifting effect to it...again not totally what I had in mind and I agree its kinda distracting and unintelligible...at 1st I had the entire vocal track doubled with the pitch shifted effect...talk about mud! :p
Thanks for listening, glad ya liked it...hopefully I can fix it up a bit!
 
Did a re-track of the vocals...adding a verse and hopefully getting them clearer...thinking they may be to upfront loud now?

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=7405493&q=hi

Maybe you're just a little too close to it right now. Let it rest for a few days and when you come back, you'll find that the vox are as loud as they need to be.

Usually when a spoken word it in the forefront, the music is "ducked" like DJs do when they talk over music in commercials. The music is side chained to a compressor that lowers the music when the voice over comes in.

With this piece you haven't ducked it, so the volume needs to be that loud to allow for some headroom in the other instruments. For instance, the bass is so cool that I think it could come up at 1:23 and 2:45 after the stops. The rhythm git gets the whole stage there whereas I think the bass is the star of the show. Just my opinion.

But the vox are not too loud, again, just my opinion.

BTW nice transition at 3:37 from the lead break back to the rhythm bedrock. That ain't easy to do seamlessly and you nearly pulled it off.

I like this mix better. Cool as a moose.

Wig:)
 
Totally groovy Queep!
I love it! Love that bass-line you've got going on it. Recording sounds great. Great lyrics (did ya smoke something good....?:D). The distorted guitars towards the end sound murderously good, I wish you had more of them....
Totally cool stuff!

Joey :):):):)
 
Yeah, this is sounding nice Queepster :)!

The bass sounds kick-ass! I like the sort of stripped down retro groove you have going here...simpler than a lot of your arrangements, which in this case is really nice. The lyrics are engaging and your voice is exceedingly clear here which is also a change in a sense.

I liked the guitar explosion 2/3rds through and the ending was cool. Nice job :D!
 
your songs are always fun to listen to. great guitar solo alot of shaking and bending. that suck you in sound at the end of the guitar solo is kinda like your staple sound. i've heard it before at the end of the scream in that bad ronald song right?
 
Queepy, this is really cool from the start on thru.

The drums are very cool sounding. The bass tone is very nice. And that almost solo like bassline is very grooving. Did you play that yourself? Sounds like it would a lot of fun to play. My bass playing is very off time. But I'm hoping to spend more time.

And that screechin' solo, just rocks. Very nice contrast from the lyrics part. That lyrics have a groovy but open feel. And the solo part is full of stuff.

Very Cool.

:)
 
It all sounds good to me queepy. The bass rides nicely throughout and the groove is tight with the drums. The wah guitar and clean guitar compliment each other nicely. This is kinda Zappa but I found it more mainstream pop rock - which I prefer. The mix sounds great - vocals are perfect....

Now how do I get the ringing out of my ears from NL5's screamo intro????? lol

:D:cool::D:cool:
 
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Xeries : Maybe you're just a little too close to it right now. Let it rest for a few days and when you come back, you'll find that the vox are as loud as they need to be.
Usually when a spoken word it in the forefront, the music is "ducked" like DJs do when they talk over music in commercials. The music is side chained to a compressor that lowers the music when the voice over comes in.
With this piece you haven't ducked it, so the volume needs to be that loud to allow for some headroom in the other instruments. For instance, the bass is so cool that I think it could come up at 1:23 and 2:45 after the stops. The rhythm git gets the whole stage there whereas I think the bass is the star of the show. Just my opinion.
But the vox are not too loud, again, just my opinion.
BTW nice transition at 3:37 from the lead break back to the rhythm bedrock. That ain't easy to do seamlessly and you nearly pulled it off.
I like this mix better. Cool as a moose.

Those are interesting points you bring up about the ducking and headroom for this type of vocal delivery....I would like to start paying a little more attention to the dynamics/detail of my mixes, rather then just the steamroller approach of one level all the way thru :p Going to look at the bass guitar at those points you mentioned and mess with raising them as you suggested.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!

joeym : Totally groovy Queep!
I love it! Love that bass-line you've got going on it. Recording sounds great. Great lyrics (did ya smoke something good....?). The distorted guitars towards the end sound murderously good, I wish you had more of them....
Totally cool stuff!
Joey

Thanks Joey....the whole thing came together around just messing around with the bass and some drum loops....no smoking at all.... just pent up boredom from being forced to interact with the 30-40 something yuppie ,playschool,PTA , soccer mom parent scene :p...Glad ya dug it !

heatmiser : Yeah, this is sounding nice Queepster !
The bass sounds kick-ass! I like the sort of stripped down retro groove you have going here...simpler than a lot of your arrangements, which in this case is really nice. The lyrics are engaging and your voice is exceedingly clear here which is also a change in a sense.
I liked the guitar explosion 2/3rds through and the ending was cool. Nice job !

Hey Heatmiser, thanks for listening! I did actually spend a little time on the vocal sound pre recording...I usually just turn it on and let it rip, but this time I messed with EQ, mic placement, were I stood before I committed the second attempt to recording....I was kinda thinking that heavier part might be to much of a stretch from the vibe of the song up to that point, but it has kinda grew on me and I like it now...


greyharmonix : your songs are always fun to listen to. great guitar solo alot of shaking and bending. that suck you in sound at the end of the guitar solo is kinda like your staple sound. i've heard it before at the end of the scream in that bad ronald song right?

Wow, good memory, I did try for that same effect on "Bad Ronald"..I envision a sort of wall of sound build up to a crescendo that abruptly disappears...a kind of jarring effect, but for some reason, I really like it...thanks for the listen, glad ya dug it!

guitar zero :Queepy, YOU NAILED IT!!!!!
GZ

Thanks man...the feedback I get here helps so much!

bigbubba :Queepy, this is really cool from the start on thru.

The drums are very cool sounding. The bass tone is very nice. And that almost solo like bassline is very grooving. Did you play that yourself? Sounds like it would a lot of fun to play. My bass playing is very off time. But I'm hoping to spend more time.
And that screechin' solo, just rocks. Very nice contrast from the lyrics part. That lyrics have a groovy but open feel. And the solo part is full of stuff.
Very Cool.

Hey Bigbubba, thanks for the good word man! I did play the bass and guitars on this....been really digging playing the Bass since I was able to get my hands on such a fine quality instrument as the Rickenbacker 4001 I'm now using....the roto-sound roundwound strings I put on it are sweet as well, and really effected my playing beyond what I ever thought...

ido1957 It all sounds good to me queepy. The bass rides nicely throughout and the groove is tight with the drums. The wah guitar and clean guitar compliment each other nicely. This is kinda Zappa but I found it more mainstream pop rock - which I prefer. The mix sounds great - vocals are perfect....
Now how do I get the ringing out of my ears from NL5's screamo intro????? lol


Thanks Idol! That wah thing is actually all one guitar, using a delay effect from my podxtl that adds the modulated sound to the echo from the original sound/tone...kinda quirky :p
 
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