Good Vocal VST plug-in

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Hello again everyone!

SInce you all were so great at helping me figure out my set-up so it actually works I tought i would throw another question at you! :)

Is there a good (free) VST effect out there for vocasl? Now I know there are thousands of reverbs, etc but is there something simple for morons like me to use without having to mess with many parameters, etc?

Thanks in advance guys and gals!

Rod
 
That's not really how plugins/effects work. Commonly, vocals might call for EQ, compression, reverb/delay, pitch correction, and/or de-essing, or none of the above. It's like asking for a "red" plugin for "n00b" painters.

What problems are you trying to fix with your vocals?
 
No problems that need fixing, just want to add some light delay and reverb.

Rod
 
rodclement said:
Is there a good (free) VST effect out there for vocasl? Now I know there are thousands of reverbs, etc but is there something simple for morons like me to use without having to mess with many parameters, etc?
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steve.h said:
That's not really how plugins/effects work. Commonly, vocals might call for EQ, compression, reverb/delay, pitch correction, and/or de-essing, or none of the above. It's like asking for a "red" plugin for "n00b" painters.
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rodclement said:
No problems that need fixing, just want to add some light delay and reverb
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

rodclement said:
Isn't asking for help in the NEWB section trying to learn stuff? Glad you were born knowing...just saying...
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Lol nope, not in cases like this. :laughings: Sorry you weren't born knowing!
 
to the OP...if you have a decent preamp and mic what problems do you have?...music isnt about throwing effects etc at everything its about using tools to fix problems or effects to enhance the product...if everything you sing sounds shit then ask why? what would fix it? what would make it sound better?


also if you think effect suites and presets are going to be your way to finding good vocals then sell your gear and take up fishing or something...you're only going to keep ending up disappointed mate...vocals, imho, are the hardest part and take the most work unless you are gifted

like all good things the more you put in, the more you get out

I would suggest learning about compression to begin with....this will be your most important tool
 
rodclement said:
No problems that need fixing, just want to add some light delay and reverb.

Rod
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Does your DAW not include at least basic delay and reverb plugins? If not then download any of the dozens of freeware plugins and mess around until you get a sense of how they work. It won't matter much if the plugin is super fantastic or not until you get better at setting the parameters.

Delays may be inserted on the track itself or on an aux loop (called various things in different DAWs). Reverbs are usually setup on an aux loop, but sometimes it makes sense to put them right on a track. In any case you need to know how to set up an aux loop so make yourself do that if you don't already know how. Presets are good starting points for reverbs and delays. Not so much for things like eqs and compressors.
 
rodclement said:
Is there a good (free) VST effect out there for vocasl? Now I know there are thousands of reverbs, etc but is there something simple for morons like me to use without having to mess with many parameters, etc
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I sort of understand where you're coming from, because on the one hand, some that show a preference for and stick almost exclusively with 'the old way of doing things' get told often that they're snobs or dinosaurs and that you have to keep up with what's going on now if you want your music to compete/be listened to blahdy blahdy blah because times and listening habits and expectations {of the listener} have changed (all of which do have some truth to them)~ and on the other hand, we live in the age of the instant fix whereby those that develop technology have listened to artists and engineers moaning for years and come up with dozens of ways of fixing things, making them easier to do, more convenient etc and the partial result of that is that often, the old school that have tended not to adopt the new tools tend to have a sneer in their step towards the quick fix brigade.
Both, in my opinion, are as bad as each other.
Both also, in my opinion, have plenty that is useful to offer.
Your question seems to indicate not so much that you are a shitty singer, but rather, that you don't really want to become what you see as a musical computer programmer. The problem for you though is that any way the wind blows, even if you had some magical plug in that was able to do what you want, you or whoever still has to sing and attempt to hit notes and convey 'presence', you'd still have to learn to use it and tweak it and work things out in the bigger picture of your mix and natural curiosity would probably get you to experiment here and there ~ one thing that almost everyone that records, whether at home or not, has in common.
 
To those with helpfull answers and insights, thank you! To the jerks making assumptions, screw you!

I hate how, when you join a new forum, people look at your post count and assume you are incapable of having a brain and are disrespectfull.

If anyone must know, I am 39 years old and have been singing since age 16, I have toured 3 continents, recorded 3 albums that actually sold in the hundreds of thousands of copies and I have a five octave range...is that ok with some of you or do I need to post a resume to be able to ask a question in the NEWB section?

Now I am not looking for autotune, not wanting to cover any mistakes, just looking for some simple effects like reverb and delay that I can apply to some demo tracks to help a fellow musician that needs vocals on his tracks so he can go sell them...is that too much to ask? I know and understand eq and compression. What I don't know is reverb and delay parameters.

All my life I went into a studio and used a tech to track my vocals, then either me or the producer would sit there and ask for things and the tech would make it happen.

Now, with all this new technology, I am sitting at home and want to try to do some of these simple vocal takes myself, it is both cost effective and fun! My question is simply if there is a suite out there that someone like me, with no home recording experience, could understand quickly, without having to resort to some long book, or instrucions, you know, something with dials instead of parameters, some old school nob looking control or something?

Sorry for the angry arrogant post, just frustrated every time I try to join a new community, it's almost like you need pedigree or something...

Rod
 
bouldersoundguy said:
Does your DAW not include at least basic delay and reverb plugins? If not then download any of the dozens of freeware plugins and mess around until you get a sense of how they work. It won't matter much if the plugin is super fantastic or not until you get better at setting the parameters.

Delays may be inserted on the track itself or on an aux loop (called various things in different DAWs). Reverbs are usually setup on an aux loop, but sometimes it makes sense to put them right on a track. In any case you need to know how to set up an aux loop so make yourself do that if you don't already know how. Presets are good starting points for reverbs and delays. Not so much for things like eqs and compressors.
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Thank you! I have been saving a track, then copying it into a new one to experiment with effect chains and parameters, always having a original for comparsion.

Rod
 
grimtraveller said:
I sort of understand where you're coming from, because on the one hand, some that show a preference for and stick almost exclusively with 'the old way of doing things' get told often that they're snobs or dinosaurs and that you have to keep up with what's going on now if you want your music to compete/be listened to blahdy blahdy blah because times and listening habits and expectations {of the listener} have changed (all of which do have some truth to them)~ and on the other hand, we live in the age of the instant fix whereby those that develop technology have listened to artists and engineers moaning for years and come up with dozens of ways of fixing things, making them easier to do, more convenient etc and the partial result of that is that often, the old school that have tended not to adopt the new tools tend to have a sneer in their step towards the quick fix brigade.
Both, in my opinion, are as bad as each other.
Both also, in my opinion, have plenty that is useful to offer.
Your question seems to indicate not so much that you are a shitty singer, but rather, that you don't really want to become what you see as a musical computer programmer. The problem for you though is that any way the wind blows, even if you had some magical plug in that was able to do what you want, you or whoever still has to sing and attempt to hit notes and convey 'presence', you'd still have to learn to use it and tweak it and work things out in the bigger picture of your mix and natural curiosity would probably get you to experiment here and there ~ one thing that almost everyone that records, whether at home or not, has in common.
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Thanks! Just looking for a simple interface so I can build a mental relation between a knob and what parameter it represents.

Rod
 
rodclement said:
To those with helpfull answers and insights, thank you! To the jerks making assumptions, screw you!

I hate how, when you join a new forum, people look at your post count and assume you are incapable of having a brain and are disrespectfull.

If anyone must know, I am 39 years old and have been singing since age 16, I have toured 3 continents, recorded 3 albums that actually sold in the hundreds of thousands of copies and I have a five octave range...is that ok with some of you or do I need to post a resume to be able to ask a question in the NEWB section?

Now I am not looking for autotune, not wanting to cover any mistakes, just looking for some simple effects like reverb and delay that I can apply to some demo tracks to help a fellow musician that needs vocals on his tracks so he can go sell them...is that too much to ask? I know and understand eq and compression. What I don't know is reverb and delay parameters.

All my life I went into a studio and used a tech to track my vocals, then either me or the producer would sit there and ask for things and the tech would make it happen.

Now, with all this new technology, I am sitting at home and want to try to do some of these simple vocal takes myself, it is both cost effective and fun! My question is simply if there is a suite out there that someone like me, with no home recording experience, could understand quickly, without having to resort to some long book, or instrucions, you know, something with dials instead of parameters, some old school nob looking control or something?

Sorry for the angry arrogant post, just frustrated every time I try to join a new community, it's almost like you need pedigree or something...

Rod
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calm down man..people here see the same questions day in day out so it doesnt get a bit annoying when another vague question pops out of thin air..I know there should be more respect in the n00b forum but folks are only human...except those of us who are aliens :)


here's some of the better free stuff that works well with vocal tracks

De-esser: Spitfish [Windows and Mac]

Noise gate: Floorfish [Windows and Mac]

EQ: Nyquist EQ [Windows and Mac]
Also consider Kjaerhus Classic EQ [Windows only] and Paris EQ [Windows only]

Compressor: Kjaerhus Classic Compressor [Windows only]
Also consider MJCompressor [Windows and Mac] and blockfish [Windows and Mac]

Reverb: DX Reverb Lite [Windows and Mac]
Also consider Glaceverb [Windows only], Ambience [Windows and Mac], and Kjaerhus Classic [Windows only]

Tape Saturation: JS Magneto [Windows only]
Also consider Saturator [Windows only] and Voxengo tube amp [Windows only]

Chorus: Kjaerhus Classic Compressor [Windows only]

Delay: Bionic Delay [Windows only] and Kjaerhus Classic [Windows only]

Limiter: W1 [Windows and Mac
 
Considering this was your original question:
rodclement said:
Is there a good (free) VST effect out there for vocasl?
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...and then the best you could do when you were asked to be more specific was this:


rodclement said:
just want to add some light delay and reverb.
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I'm surprised you even got any help from anyone, especially after you pointed out that you're too lazy to want to take the time to learn how something works. Of all the effects, delay and reverb probably have the most straight-forward parameters, but even that was asking you to put in too much effort.....gimme a break.

....and nobody asked for your frickin' resume either. You're quite the drama queen, and you sound totally insecure. :rolleyes:
 
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Yep, just another day in paradise.

My 2 cents:

Rod, you set yourself up for bashing with that original post man. And it obviously seems that you had your guard up in advance, cuz you jumped at retaliation from nothing but a slightly 'smart assed' response. If you really want to gain information from the people here with knowledge, I recommend that you retain a sense of humor and some respect for the people that spend time giving you 'any' advice. The responses from members that are sarcastic, are just as valid as the nice ones. From what I have read through this thread is that you are the one who took offense to 'having to learn stuff' when you made it clear you didn't want to 'mess with many parameters, etc'. Then you started the cycle by stabbing with your 'born knowing' crap. Expect those who are here to help to be offended by your rude assumptions and statements as I am sure you would be as well.

You will not gain any good advice from any forum by taking offense to good advise. And especially not by lashing out at a respected member such as RAMI.

I have hereby banished you from my cool list for 3 days. LOL!

Chill Rod, and welcome to HR. Seriously man.

Jimmy
 
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