Getting a punchier bottom end

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Also this is extreme.

Id start agian man.

Track with perfection and you wont have to juggle too much.
The tracks will talk to you and tell you what needs to be done.

Make sure you got good monitors though dude.
If you cant heae what your doing its pretty hard.
If your room monitor environment aint up to par i would stop fuckin round until you adress that issue first.
I wasted a lot of time on shit monitors.
Alesis M1 Mk2 actives i tried to kid myself into believing i can do it with them.
Well guess what i couldnt.

oh baby
 
ok....one last time (hopefully but prob not)....

I know you are all probably getting a bit sick of hearing the same track over and over again, but one last time, perhaps you could tell me what you reckon of the latest mix at the following link:

***FIXED ***

I think perhaps the lead vocal is a bit loud now, perhaps I need to re-record parts of it?

Please be as critical as possible - is the mix generally better? (Am I improving as opposed to the earlier mixes :-P ?. )As suggested, I reduced guitar levels, boosted kick, bass, snare and vocals

Bearing in mind this was all recorded on a shitty 1GZ PIII running Ardour under Linux. I'm a student so can't afford anything too decent. My most recent addition however is a pair of M-Audio Studiophile BX5 monitors (bought only a couple weeks ago). All the mixing is point and click which is perhaps why it is taking so long, maybe I should invest in a Hardware controller. Also, the whole project is just so I can learn to produce a bit better.

Thanks all, your time and ears are most fervently appreciated
Ben.
 
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Shite sorry, a slight typo

Sorry, noticed a typo. It should have been

 
Heaps better bonesy.

The vocals are distorting.
Try another mix-down with the master-fader pulled down about 5db's.
Mathematically on some platforms this is identical to pulling the individual individual track faders down. This wont fix plugin overs and bussing overs.
so check your bussing and plugins also.
Make sure they are not overloaded. They dont have to be clipping to sound awful or contibute to less than pleasant sounds.
cheers bonesy
Then send it to me if you like.
Cheers
 
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Cheers, but...

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the vocals distorting - I mean I obviously know what distortion is ;-), but could it be down to the fact that the vocals were recorded on a budget Shure BG1.1 microphone (cost be about £35 five or so years ago). Maybe I will buy another and better mic soon, like a condenser or something, but I'm a student so can't afford too much.
Still, I'l try another mix anyway, with the master pulled down a bit

Cheers :-)
 
The vocals are a bit gritty.
Adjusting your levels could help this.
Maybe a thick wad of compression could help also.

oh bonesy oh bonesy
 
Compression?

Ok, am going to try with some compression, see if that sorts things out. Damn my cheap dynamic microphone!
 
It may not be the mic it self just the gain stage.

You should be able to set up a clean sound with a relatively cheap mic pre combination but the signal will be quite low on the meters.
Thats better than going for higher at the cost of purity.
 
Ok...here we go...

...mixed down with the master pulled down by about 5dbs and added some compression to all vocal tracks, but maybe I over compressed a little. I then normalised the result. Better or worse?



Cheers! :-)
 
dont normalize anything man. Unless you are going for that feel/sound.

Do you have a good set of headphones, listen to the tracks integrity,
describe the sound to yourself ie
sweet/warm/gritty/smooth/distorted/harsh/shit/ and do what ever you have to to get it to one of those or all of those if you know what i mean.


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Heh!

...Legend, dunno about that....Heh! But anyway, I mean I normalised the whole mix, not the individual vocal tracks (if thats what you thought I meant)...

I dunno what I want any more...Perhaps I'l just go for shit...Heheh, I think perhaps I've done enough mixing today - maybe I'l do a bit more later, but most likely I'l continue tommorrow.

Legend indeed.... :-)
 
Dont normalise the whole mix either bonsey baby.
Give your ears a rest.
I will read you a bed time story soon.
 
Ok... still shit I think...

Hey,

Just wondering, have done some mixes of the same track and a different one:




With regards to the first one, I'm really struglling to mix the vocals. Perhaps they have just been tracked really badly. Maybe I should re-do them or alternatively look for somebody who can actually sing...

In comparison to the earlier mixes, I have added some compression to the drums to fatten them up a bit. Also, perhaps a bad thing, but I also used this LADSPA plugin called Barry's Satan Maximizer on the whole of each mix (but only used to very subtle effect :-P ).

Cheers :-)
 
Ok, I'l not continue with this thread after this post :-)

Ok, I've decided that the vocals have indeed been tracked like a pile of shite, will re-do them or something when I get time.

In fact I've just listened to the mixes today, having not listened to them for a week and they sound like a pile of shite. So goes, the benefit of a frsh pair of ears... ;-)

Later :-)
 
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can't listen to any of this at work, but I thought I may offer my 2 cents...

RE: tight low end... try to get seperation between bass guitar and kick drum with EQ. I also like to gate the kick drum. Rolling the low end off the guitar helps alot too...
 
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