Genesis - Peter Gabriel vocal sound ...

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gilwe said:
Does anyone have any information about the recording equipment used at the recording of "Trespass" to "Foxtrot" albums ?

The overall sound (on "Trespass" especially) is just amazing !!!

I'm curious particullary about the vocal mic for Peter Gabriel's vocal recording ...


Trespass - what an album
 
Nakatira said:
This is my favorite thread Ever..... :cool: :cool: :cool:


Yup, it's a good one. More people should listen to prog. Some of my faves:

Newer:

The Flower Kings
Spock's Beard/Neal Morse/Transatlantic
Kaipa
Karmakanic
Tomas Bodin
Sylvan
Pagan's Mind
Shadow Gallery
Dream Theater
Kino
The Tangent
Frost
Flying Food Circus


Older:

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Trettioariga Kriget
Gentle Giant
Van Der Graaf Generator
Genesis (Gabriel era)
Yes
Camel
Kraan
National Health
Gong (the early stuff before Holdsworth)
Hatfield and the North
Sammla Mammas Manna
 
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Nakatira said:
This is my favorite thread Ever..... :cool: :cool: :cool:

I started reading this thread and then realized that it started in mid 2002, then was resurrected in mid 2005 and now today! Cool.

FWIW, The Moody Blues, Genesis and Yes were the first pop groups I started to listen to back in high school, around 1980. Before that, I only owned classical and more recent (20th century) orchestral and chamber music and only heard pop music on the radio.

Since that time, I've pretty much put three double albums in a special class as my "desert island" collection: Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Quadrophenia and The Wall. That's not to say I'm not passionate about the earlier Genesis albums, and not to neglect all the wonderful Yes stuff, and let's not forget ELP and King Crimson. Yessongs is one of my favorite live albums, and would also come along to the desert island, along with Peter G's "Plays Live", for which I was lucky enough to be at one of the recorded gigs in Kansas City, Kansas.

Honestly, the sound quality and production values are pretty much irrelevant to me on this stuff. For me, it's all about the way I connect, both emotionally and intellectually, to the music. I have no problem looking over the sound quality issues. After all, lots of these older works were originally crappy Atlantic vinyl pressings.

Cheers,

Otto
 
double albums

a few killer double albums:

Yes - Tales...
The Flower Kings - Garden of Dreams, Stardust We Are, Unfold The Future
 
Nakatira said:
This is my favorite thread Ever..... :cool: :cool: :cool:
Its a damn good thread. :cool:

Somebody should also mention the "lost Genesis album," otherwise known as The Geese and the Ghost by Anthony Phillips. True, Anthony Phillips left the band in the REALLY early days, but it really does sound like a mid-70s era Genesis album.

Yes, its a very interesting album, with lots of Genesis personnel and influence.
 
crankypants said:
Yup, it's a good one. More people should listen to prog. Some of my faves:

Newer:

The Flower Kings
Spock's Beard/Neal Morse/Transatlantic
Kaipa
Karmakanic
Tomas Bodin
Sylvan
Pagan's Mind
Shadow Gallery
Dream Theater
Kino
The Tangent
Frost
Flying Food Circus


Older:

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Trettioariga Kriget
Gentle Giant
Van Der Graaf Generator
Genesis (Gabriel era)
Yes
Camel
Kraan
National Health
Gong (the early stuff before Holdsworth)
Hatfield and the North
Sammla Mammas Manna


There are some exelent band on that list, I`ve allways struggeled to get the newer bands.
I realize that theire exelent musicans and sutch.
Its just the atmosphere and the sounds of the 70`s really enchants me. :cool:
 
ofajen said:
I started reading this thread and then realized that it started in mid 2002, then was resurrected in mid 2005 and now today! Cool.

FWIW, The Moody Blues, Genesis and Yes were the first pop groups I started to listen to back in high school, around 1980. Before that, I only owned classical and more recent (20th century) orchestral and chamber music and only heard pop music on the radio.

Since that time, I've pretty much put three double albums in a special class as my "desert island" collection: Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Quadrophenia and The Wall. That's not to say I'm not passionate about the earlier Genesis albums, and not to neglect all the wonderful Yes stuff, and let's not forget ELP and King Crimson. Yessongs is one of my favorite live albums, and would also come along to the desert island, along with Peter G's "Plays Live", for which I was lucky enough to be at one of the recorded gigs in Kansas City, Kansas.

Honestly, the sound quality and production values are pretty much irrelevant to me on this stuff. For me, it's all about the way I connect, both emotionally and intellectually, to the music. I have no problem looking over the sound quality issues. After all, lots of these older works were originally crappy Atlantic vinyl pressings.

Cheers,

Otto


I Really love the sound of 70`s I realize that some of the bands such as Genesis, Magma Nektar and lots of the Krautrock had "wich would seem like cheap\poor production" But I feel like thats what catches the atmosphere.
Dont get me wrong I love Pink Floyd and Steely Dan Wich to me has some of the Best recordings I`ve heard.

But The rawness of these records make them a bit more rockish and thats fine by me :cool:

A band and an Album I allways loved the sound of Is Camel and Mirage, to me that is the ultimate 70`s prog sound.

Btw I really dig Yessongs as well, Allthough I got the dvd I find the Album to be much better sounding.
 
Nakatira said:
There are some exelent band on that list, I`ve allways struggeled to get the newer bands.
I realize that theire exelent musicans and sutch.
Its just the atmosphere and the sounds of the 70`s really enchants me. :cool:

I hear you. The biggest thrill I get lately (musically) is 'discovering' some obscure band from the '70s. There's just something about that era, no doubt.

With that in mind, though, I would highly recommend at least checking out The Flower Kings and The Tangent...they draw heavily upon the '70s. Even though they are generally pretty high quality productions compared to the '70s bands, they still have that special something... :)
 
crankypants said:
I hear you. The biggest thrill I get lately (musically) is 'discovering' some obscure band from the '70s. There's just something about that era, no doubt.

With that in mind, though, I would highly recommend at least checking out The Flower Kings and The Tangent...they draw heavily upon the '70s. Even though they are generally pretty high quality productions compared to the '70s bands, they still have that special something... :)

I`ve listened a bit to Flower Kings.
I even Got one of theire records cant remember the name, but theire certainly a great band.

I also think band sutch as Anekdoten and Anglegaard are great :)
 
Let us not forget the Yodelling extravaganza of Focus on their one hit wonder "Hocus Pocus". That's always worth a laugh, but seriously, I was really happy to see this thread. It's a tremendous relief to me that you guys are keeping with the original definition of Progressive Rock.

How about Wakeman and his ridiculous stereo Leslie setup on "Six Wives of Henry VIII"? Cool as all get-out, but that guy was a little high on himself........

JD
 
guttapercha said:
Let us not forget the Yodelling extravaganza of Focus on their one hit wonder "Hocus Pocus". That's always worth a laugh, but seriously, I was really happy to see this thread. It's a tremendous relief to me that you guys are keeping with the original definition of Progressive Rock.

How about Wakeman and his ridiculous stereo Leslie setup on "Six Wives of Henry VIII"? Cool as all get-out, but that guy was a little high on himself........

JD


I love Focus.

They have a great DVD out now called from the vaults, some exelent preformances.
Inc Hamurger Concerto.
Hocus Pocus was the first one for me though, I`ve only met one guy who dident Love that tune :cool:

Wakeman is and will allways be pompus, but he does it with a sense of humor.
He`s comments on his own escepades during the 70`s allways cracks me up. :)
 
Nakatira said:
I`ve listened a bit to Flower Kings.
I even Got one of theire records cant remember the name, but theire certainly a great band.

I also think band sutch as Anekdoten and Anglegaard are great :)


I haven't heard Anekdoten yet, but in general I don't think you can go wrong with Swedish prog bands.
 
crankypants said:
I haven't heard Anekdoten yet, but in general I don't think you can go wrong with Swedish prog bands.

Hear that :cool:

If you get a chance check out Bo Hanson. Sagaen om Ringet. (Lord of the rings) 72 I think. Very atmospheric recorded a cabin and thats the feel it gives.
 
DC-XPL said:
I've owned The Lamb for 20 years now, and I still haven't been able to listen to it from start to finish - ever! And I sure as hell could never make sense out of that rambling 'concept' story. Rael.....schmael....

I'll take a dark, bleak afternoon and a copy of Wind and Wuthering anytime...

Pretty much... Slipper men or whatever... gimmie a break. And I love Genesis.
 
Along these lines...has no one mentioned Thick As A Brick?

Selling England and Trick of the Tail are my favs.

Close to the Edge, Tales, Relayer, The Yes Album for them.

Gentle Giant anyone?

Colleseum? Daughter of Time.
 
OMG. Great album. I wore out my Thick as a Brick cassette over the summer after 10th grade.
 
Its a shame that a lot of this stuff is not available on i-tunes. They have greatest hits but a very limited selection of albums. :(
 
After the Ordeal

It seems this is an old thread dating back many years. The original poster may have moved on or even passed away, but i thought id add my 2 cents.

Unlike many of you, i never really liked progressive/art/rock. I play acoustic guitar and other instruments, i was into classical music, celtic music, movie soundtracks, Lennon McCartney, jimi hendrix, quite the mixed bag. I never really liked yes, elo, gentle giant, i did like some tull though. So it was a surprize to me that i became one of the worlds biggest Genesis fans.
But enough of that.

The other yes type groups, just sounded too "pop" or "commercial" for me.
Genesis was a unique mixture of elements, tinkling 12 strings, the mellotron, fantasy like choirs and gigantic string swells, deep non ending bass pedals, creative drumming,and vocals that were personal expressive and unique. The lyrics were about
giant man eating plants, greek mythology etc. And if a song were about a science fiction like subject, the music and atmosphere were perfect for the mood.

As far as the recordings back then, you could hear that the music was intense, but you certainly couldnt feel it in those recordings. It was all there somewhere, but the recordings were flat and dull.
So to the original poster, if youre still alive. I dont think the microphones had much to do with it. I think you were really reacting to Gabriels emphasis, feelings, and unique voice coming across with the music.

Theres a lesson there somewhere. No matter what equipment you have, if you dont have the spirit, it wont work. And if you have the passion and the skill, you just might effect someone, regardless of the equipment.

Of course its all the better if you have both and the recording is beautiful.

that was my 2 cents.
 
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