Gefell UM92.1S Matched Set - Any Good on Drums

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Are you kidding? Those are some of the nicest mics around, and rather versatile too.

BTW, a pair just sold on eBay yesterday. It sure was tempting, but the price went from "real deal" to "reasonable" by the time the auction ended.
 
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sdelsolray said:
Are you kidding? Those are some of the nicest mics around, and rather versatile too.

BTW, a pair just sold on eBay yesterday. It sure was tempting, but the price went from "real deal" to "reasonable" by the time the auction ended.
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Yep, I know.....Sometimes you just get carried away - LOL. :D
 
Well, if I had them, I'd probably drink a fifth in celebration.
 
I'm pretty excited, but it was a MAJOR purchase for my little home studio. I was looking for a single M92.1S, and ended up with two UM92.1S's.

I think it was a moment of temporary insanity! :D
 
I read a review ...the guy thought the SP T#3 sounded alot like the Geffel 92,,,,,,just a few dollars different in price :cool:Recording mag. Jan 2004
 
mikey@thecave said:
I read a review ...the guy thought the SP T#3 sounded alot like the Geffel 92,,,,,,just a few dollars different in price :cool:Recording mag. Jan 2004
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well they are more or less the same mic...........LOL
 
NL5 said:
I'm pretty excited, but it was a MAJOR purchase for my little home studio. I was looking for a single M92.1S, and ended up with two UM92.1S's.

I think it was a moment of temporary insanity! :D
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That's so cool. I've got a UMT800, which is a SS sibling (same M7 capsule, some of the circuitry is the same). Boy, are you gonna like those mics. And just because they're rebadged SP T3's from China shouldn't get you too upset.

Seriously, you now have two of the finest microphones on the planet. If you ever want to sell them, send me an e-mail.
 
sdelsolray said:
And just because they're rebadged SP T3's from China shouldn't get you too upset.
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Ya, I'm fine with that.....LOL :D


sdelsolray said:
Seriously, you now have two of the finest microphones on the planet. If you ever want to sell them, send me an e-mail.
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I'll keep that in mind - I'm right across the river from you, so you could come check them out first too.
 
You will be very happy indeed. Now you will never be able to tolerate most budget mics again. I am a huge Gefell fan. The M7 capsule in the best sounding capsule IMO. I feel so strongly about that, I own like 13 Gefell mics. :)

Record something and post it.

Oh ya, they work very well on drums. Nice air with no sizzle. Just open and real.

Kirk
 
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mikey@thecave said:
what mic does the M7 capsule mic sound like?
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Trick question.

There really isn't a mic that sounds like a M7 capsule. The M7 was used in early U47's. Later 47's use a K47 capsule. The M7 has a great top end due to being made with PVC instead of other materials such as Mylar. PVC starts as a liquid and is spread onto a glass sheet. Other capsule materials tend to start out as a solid that is rolled or pressed to become the desired thickness. This rolling pressing creates a grain so to speak in the material. The PVC being a liquid that is poured and spread on glass doesn't get that grain to it. The diaphram with a grain and a diaphram of PVC will flex differently. This is where the killer top aend air and space gets it's start.

Lots of mics use the M7 capsule. Although most are Gefells. You can read up on the history of Gefell and the M7 capsule at Gefells site.

Some other mics that use that capsule are the Neuman U48 and M49. The Gefell UMT70's, MT71's, UM92.1's and the UM75. All these will sound a different due to mic body, grill, and amplifier designs. The capsule however will allow for a top end that IMO is unobtainable with any other capsule.

Kirk

If I remember any of this wrong let me know.
 
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nwsoundman said:
Some other mics that use that capsule are the Neuman U48 and M49. The Gefell UMT70's, MT71's, UM92.1's and the UM75. All these will sound a different due to mic body, grill, and amplifier designs. The capsule however will allow for a top end that IMO is unobtainable with any other capsule.
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What about the SP T3? How did they attain a better sound (especially in the top end)? Or, does it use an M7 capsule as well?
 
nwsoundman said:
You will be very happy indeed. Now you will never be able to tolerate most budget mics again. I am a huge Gefell fan. The M7 capsule in the best sounding capsule IMO. I feel so strongly about that, I own like 13 Gefell mics. :)

Record something and post it.

Oh ya, they work very well on drums. Nice air with no sizzle. Just open and real.

Kirk
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Well, I hope to be a huge fan soon. I had to do all my homework with my eyes instead of my ears, as I can't test out a bunch of high end mics here. I did research on capsules, and from what I read, the M7 best fit the bill for my needs. Since I can't afford a vintage u48/m49, the M92.1S was my best choice IMHO. I have been loking for a good deal on a used one, when this pair of UM's came up, and I was in the right mood, happen to have some cash,etc, and just went for it. Just can't wait to record with them! :D
 
nwsoundman said:
Trick question.

There really isn't a mic that sounds like a M7 capsule. The M7 was used in early U47's. Later 47's use a K47 capsule. The M7 has a great top end due to being made with PVC instead of other materials such as Mylar. PVC starts as a liquid and is spread onto a glass sheet. Other capsule materials tend to start out as a solid that is rolled or pressed to become the desired thickness. This rolling pressing creates a grain so to speak in the material. The PVC being a liquid that is poured and spread on glass doesn't get that grain to it. The diaphram with a grain and a diaphram of PVC will flex differently. This is where the killer top aend air and space gets it's start.

Lots of mics use the M7 capsule. Although most are Gefells. You can read up on the history of Gefell and the M7 capsule at Gefells site.

Some other mics that use that capsule are the Neuman U48 and M49. The Gefell UMT70's, MT71's, UM92.1's and the UM75. All these will sound a different due to mic body, grill, and amplifier designs. The capsule however will allow for a top end that IMO is unobtainable with any other capsule.

Kirk

If I remember any of this wrong let me know.
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The early Neumann M49 also used the M7. Add to the "current" use list the Gefell UMT800.
 
NL5 said:
What about the SP T3? How did they attain a better sound (especially in the top end)? Or, does it use an M7 capsule as well?
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I don't know. Alan Hyatt says his SP mics sound as good or better than expensive German mics.
 
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