
beezelbubba
Shitty Buddhist
I like my Digitech RP300A.I don't think of it as an "amp modeler",though!It's just a box I use to get guitar sounds out of.
beezelbubba said:I like my Digitech RP300A.I don't think of it as an "amp modeler",though!It's just a box I use to get guitar sounds out of.
Ronan said:I am really happy to see that across the net people are starting to see that the emporer has no clothes when it comes to amp modelers. I think the tide is starting to trun against them, which is a good thing for recored music.
In regards to the no talent artist blaming his tools comment, that is sort of like saying if a chef had only dog shit and piss to prepare a meal with and could not make a good tasting meal, it would be because the chef had no talent.
amra said:Yea, the tide is starting to turn against Digital Audio too!
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amra said:Guys like you might as well accept it. Technology is still fundamentally changing the way recordings are made. Get used to it.
NRS said:1) I cant afford an expensive tube amp or high end mic
2) I dont want to deal with the inherent problems of a tube amp (noise, tube failure,ect)
3) I need access to a wide variety of amp sounds in compact form
4) My recording set up is in a location where space is limited and high volume is not an option.
nkjanssen said:Here are some of the classic strawman arguments in favour of modellers:
nkjanssen said:But, in fact, a cheap tube amp with an SM57 will sound better than a modeller 99.9% of the time.
Better being an objective and quantifiable term!
Um,but maybe I'd like more!nkjanssen said:Bullshit. How many sounds did Hendrix need? How many sounds did Clapton need? Page? Beck? Stevie? Keif? Townshend? Montgomery? Christian? Van Halen? Why do you need more than those guys? Conversely, how did any of them ever manage without a POD?
BTW,is the beef around here only the POD,or is it any guitar recorded w/o a mic and amp?
nkjanssen said:Here are some of the classic strawman arguments in favour of modellers:
But, in fact, a cheap tube amp with an SM57 will sound better than a modeller 99.9% of the time.
But, in fact, unless it has been totally thrashed, a decent tube amp is a very reliable thing. Any of the dozens of tube amps I have used or owned over the years have certainly been more reliable than any software I've ever used. These "inherent problems" are not at all inherent.
How many sounds did Hendrix need? How many sounds did Clapton need? Page? Beck? Stevie? Keif? Townshend? Montgomery? Christian? Van Halen? Why do you need more than those guys? Conversely, how did any of them ever manage without a POD?
I've lived in plenty of apartments. Recording in one is not ideal, but it can be done. I'll give you this - a POD is great for goofing around and practicing late at night; maybe getting some rough demo's down. I'll be damned if I'm ever going to let that thig get onto a finished product though. When it comes time to record it for real, its worth it to figure out a way to use a real amp. Maybe you move your rig to a friend's house to track guitars. Maybe you just play at a lower volume and during the day. It can be done if you really want to do it. If it doesn't really matter to you, though, do what's convenient - use the POD.
therage! said:I can relate to that..
Makes me think that just the name "amp modeler" was going to be cursed from the beginning no matter what. I've never intended for a modeler to "replace" an amp. It's just another sound making tool is all.
ahuimanu said:"sound better" is entirely subjective and there are certain to be exceptions to your assertion here.
you'll never have enough evidence to support this beyond subjectivity. One problem alone (one that is strange and foreign) is enough to earn a "unreliable" score.
How many ways did Columbus/De Gama/Chris Cook need to explore the earth? They got along just fine with their wooden sailboats. New modes of transit exist now and they are all used according to their strengths, weaknesses, costs and benefits. There's more to choose from and a WHOLE new crowd has access to tools which allow them to express themselves.
Yes, but the principle appeal of these units to HOME recorders is: I can get tones close to what I've always dreamed of at 3 A.M. in near-silence. The appeal of these units is the ability to get reasonable tones on a schedule and circumstances that fit in with their lives.
beezelbubba said:I'm glad I'm creative and poor enough not to give a shit about being a purist.
I can make music with anything!