fruityloops playlist vex

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can a flp user tell me how to use the damn playlist?
the manual has a few paragraphs about it but does'nt say how to load Different patterns together.
i open a pattern and the playlist window...see the little boxes and the indicator move along down the bars then loop back....fine. how do i load a different pattern into that same playlist so it can play with the already opened pattern??
whenever i open a different pattern the first one disappears.
also when i edit an opened/playing pattern and check more boxes in the playlist i still only hear the original pattern...or when the marker traverses the newly checked boxes there's no sound....
you would think that where it asks for pattern name u could type in the name of a saved pattern to load it but this ain't the case.
 
Shit...the Computer ate my lovely first response...Try #2...

Okay...the first thing the comes to mind is this:
Are you opening a new file, creating a pattern you like, saving it under one name, and then opening a new file for your next pattern, which you then save under a different name? If so, this won't allow you to use them in the same playlist. The way FLP works is to save a collection of different patterns in the same file, which you then arrange in whatever order you would like to create a whole song. There should be a fairly prominent keypad type thing numbered 1-9 with arrows for higher numbers somewhere on the interface. These numbers represent which pattern you currently have selected in the same file. To illustrate, try the following:
Open a new file, create a simple pattern using the preset channels. Then press the 2 button on the keypad. You should be presented with a whole new blank pattern screen. Create an entirely new pattern. Now press the #1 button. You should see your original pattern. Now click the playlist button. On the left side of the screen should be a list: pattern1, pattern2, etc.... in horizontal rows. These represent the patterns you have created within the current song, i.e. the current file. Now, fill in a row of four boxes on the first horizontal row, then four more boxes on the second line down, i.e. the second row/second pattern, starting with the fifth box over, that is, the fifth column. Then make sure that the Song/Pattern LED is on. This may be an LED labeled "Loop." FLP functions in two modes, "song" and "pattern." In Pattern mode, it will play only the selected pattern, (the one you are looking at) over and over and over, allowing you to make changes to that pattern and hear differences as it repeats. In Song Mode, it will play through the playlist, with whataever combination and order of however many dozens of pattern you have in the song, then repeat. After you make sure it is in Song Mode, then flip the play switch, and watch the playlist. It should play the first pattern you created four times, then play the second pattern four times, then repeat the whole thing over again.
Basically, remember that a song is a collection of different patterns played one after another, or simultaneosly, or both, and a pattern is a collection of individual channels, or sounds, which are sequenced in a particular order.
If you already understand all of the above, and are not saving a single pattern per file, then just make sure you check the Song/Patter/Loop LED.
If this doesn't make sense, let me know. There is also a tutorial set of documents that are more informative than the basic manual which I could provide for you if you would like them. One Note: This applies to FLP Version 2, through Version 2.76, or whatever that last one was. It probably still applies to FLP Version 3, but I can't be sure because I don't have it yet (soon, hopefully.)

Later,
Spoon
 
One more thing...forgotten from my first failed post

One other thing to try for educational/illustrative purposes:
Open one of the demo songs that came with FLP, and watch the playlist when you flip the play switch. It should pretty clearly demonstrate what the playlist is designed to do. Also, cycle through the patterns saved on 1-9 (and higher, if there are more) to see what each pattern is, that makes the whole song.

Later,
Spoon
 
Damn you man! You already had this question answered like 3 times in that other thread! If you can't get it through your obviously thick skull, then stop asking! Sorry, but I tried to do it in as plain English as possible.

"You're actually opening a whole new song when you do that. I understand your problem. The only way to do what you're talking about is to copy and paste the second tutorial file (by copying each instruments track and recreating the playlist) into a new pattern slot on the first tutorial. "

THERE IS NO WAY WITHOUT LOTS OF PAIN AND SUFFERING. You'd have to recreate all the patterns from the 2nd file inside the first (and possibly put all the samples in again, with the same tweaking). Give up on the fu*kin tutorial files already and make your own songs.

Jake
 
thank you spoon 22, this cleared up the one small nagging tweak of the playlist function.
yes i was trying to do some other odd stuff....and jrlemonz...i was conscious of what u might conclude from this rehash (i also have'nt been back to fruityloops much).
u also said u might share a pattern appropriate for black metal. by any chance do u or your singer know of the one man project, Lord Wind? the drum sound in "Heralds of Fight" is truly barbaric. i don't know if it's a sample or an old big drum which is then processed bigtime....a few songs are masterpieces and truly convey that pre-battle fever.
 
I don't know that song, but black metal drums aren't hard to create patterns for. It's just bass drum rolls with snare hits on the first beat of every measure (usually). In the realm of actualy human drummers, black metal isn't that much of a skill thing, more a test of physical strength and endurance.

Jake
 
your right on both counts... it's all double bass...and i absolutely phucking love it. although, there are a few bands (setherial for instance {cool name too}) with drummers that seem possessed and with alot of creativity. alot of people think the music is kinda no-mind-ish (alot of bands do suck) but it isn't that easy to compose good mystical and vampyric sounding themes.
hey, thanx both of you......
 
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