Free remix

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Sorry to bother you all with the same song that I posted a month ago, but I wanted to get some feedback on this remix, whether it's any better or any worse. For anyone who heard the first version, thanks if you check this out, and please be brutally honest.

http://www.nowhereradio.com/macle/singles

Thanks alot,
Macle
 
LOL....no one has even responded and you've already got 5 stars. Must be a helluva mix. ;) They're such a useful bbs tool...

It's downloading...brb.
 
I don't care for that sweeping sound in the intro. Not quite feeling anything from it.

The break at 2:01 would be a good place to cut and paste it to if you must use it. :)

Everything else sounds good to me. There is much better separation in this one.


Tom
 
"Free Remix"

When I first saw this I said, "I don't remember having to pay for the first version!" ;) :D

Once again you have crafted some fine pop. I listened to the first version but can't remember if I commented. This does sound a lot better. Arrangement is well done and fun as usual.

One note - everything seems high. Even the nice bass seems higher - some of that could be the notes. Just a thought. I could be way off as I am on headphones and plus your stuff rocks.

Nice work as usual. Not my favorite of yours, but still great!
 
Sluice-Yeah, I remember when 5 stars actually meant something ;) . I guess a 5 star bandit is nicer than a 1 star bandit. Thanks Robinhood, wherever you are.

I know what you mean about that sweep, as I was remixing, I was thinking, now why did I put this here? Is it supposed to be some sort of thrill or something? :rolleyes: Glad the separation seems improved (although I'm wondering if that really serves this song).
Thanks a lot Tom for checking it out, I was thinking this thread might sink like a stone!

skids-Thanks. What do you mean by "higher"? The second mix sounds higher (like it's sped up) than the first mix? I agree, this song ain't that great. The funny thing is, I was just approaching it as a simple little song that I would do quickly, and it's become this albatross. Tthis song has 63 tracks (!) and I've been working on it off and on for like 6 months. Ironic that it's called Free. I've really hit the wall home recording-wise, I'm giving it up.

Oops, a little venting, I guess. Thanks skids, I do appreciate it!

macle
 
I was pretty surprised to see at the bottom untouched when I got home today.

You know, I'm wondering if you might want to find some middle ground between the sort of "blurred edges" of mix 1 and the sharpness of mix 2. Mix 2 is an approach that I usually take in my own stuff. So it was easy for me to say, ya that sounds right to me. But in thinking about it, I believe somewhere in between, if possible, might serve your music well. I'm not a very good critic of others' music to be honest, especially when there's nothing distinctly "wrong" with a mix. But I don't think you should abandon your original approach completely on this song. Maybe find a balance and regain some of that "sleekness"?

Works well either way of course...


Tom
 
Catchy tune.

The singing is great but the vocal mix didn't sound quite right to me. The more "airy" voice may have been too dry in the mix.

Everything else sounded good.

lol, just heard the ending, cool.
 
i think i remember saying that the lead vocal wasn't up front enough in the last mix?

anyway it sounds right up there now. this sounds more up to your usual standard macle.

i like the drums too. did you do something different to the snare this time?

this one is definitely louder than the last one. the stereo spread seems a little wider too?
 
Sluice-Yeah, I probably should have just tweaked the first mix a bit, instead of starting from scratch, would have been way easier, and probably would have been fine ( 'course who wants fine?) But since I'm pretty convinced that effort is for suckers, I'm going back to just slopping together simple demos :). I know what you mean about commenting on other's stuff, very difficult, plus it's a bit of the blind leading the blind :p (think twice before you take my advice :eek: ) Thanks Tom!

Doug H-Thanks. The vocal mix, I have a very hard time when I do these duet type songs. I've got a big pile of "I give up"s, and that one's on top. Thanks a lot for checking it out, I appreciate it!

eric-Yeah, I tried to get the vocal a little more present, so thanks for that. I also tried to make the snare more snappy, I remixed the drums, tried different EQ and compression, in the hopes it might turn out better. Thanks Eric!

Btw, though I am very fed up with this song, I thought maybe what it needs is a more stripped down mix without all the strings and pianos and crap. So I threw together an extremely rough mix, and posted up a minute of it. If anyone can stand to check that out, that would be cool, if not, I don't blame you!

Thanks,
macle
http://www.nowhereradio.com/macle/singles
 
macle,
I liked this thing the first time around! Course, being a novice my attitude is, "Good...don't mess with it!" because good is all I'm getting and I have a long way to go to get where you are!


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macle said:

I also tried to make the snare more snappy, I remixed the drums, tried different EQ and compression, in the hopes it might turn out better. Thanks Eric!
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it it did turn out better imo.
 
bdbdbuck-Thanks, I really appreciate that! (Don't know if you wanna be where I am though, I'm very disillusioned with home recording.)

eric-Cool, thanks.

Toki-Alright, thanks for checking it out!

Anyone out there have any thoughts on the guitar only mix?

Macle
 
I'll leave the mix thoughts to Sluice and the rest..

I think I'm listening to mix 2 and it's sounds great to me.. maybe some of the vocals don't stand out enough.. there's some nice ones in the back that I could barely hear, but all the performances are great.. cool keys.. near pro sounding stuff.. cool ending!
 
not sure if I commented on this earlier or not...the break at :58 was cut too much... the 2:08 break was right on.

nice trip-pop song... and drum sound. You keep it interesting...

I never use Leslie gtr sounds, etc.. You're one of the guys that make 'em sound great. Same with tremelo......and the wacky over chorus'd stuf.

didn't dig the gtr mix one as much... to "skinny" sounding.
 
B. Sabbath-Hey man, how are you?! I appreciate your checking out the song. Thanks a lot!

mixmkr-Thanks for checking this song out again. And thanks for checking out the guitar only mix. What do you mean by "skinny"? :confused:

macle
 
macle said:


mixmkr-Thanks for checking this song out again. And thanks for checking out the guitar only mix. What do you mean by "skinny"? :confused:

macle
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kinda orangish... with a touch of burnt almond.....

no...actually, kinda NOT full... thin sounding mix... ya know..skinny?!!:D
 
I think the new mix is a lot better. For one thing, its not so confusing and cluttered anymore. You feature one thing at a time--when the leslie guitar is up, its the star for a second. When the piano comes in its the star for just a second without competition. For me, it makes this version much more satisfying. I liked the drums and bass sounds too.

I'm gonna go on a little tangent here about the vocals. Not the performance--the singing and performance are great. I'm just talking about the sound. They sound grainy and lacking in overall clarity, like they have some low grade distortion in them. So, really--I have a question. What is your mic>pre>recorder chain---and what are you doing to the vocals in your mix?

By the way--you need to get somebody to shop you in LA. ASAP. Get a big advance, buy all the cool gear and record your first album yourself.
 
mixmkr-Ah, I see, yeah. I was thinking maybe it would make it a little more 'edgy', since, as some have said, it's a bit Partirdge Family or bubblegummy. I'm actually torn on whether that's a bad thing :p, and it's hard to escape, especially when we have the male/female vocal. I suppose I'll leave all the strings and crap, since that's what we've been doing on all the others. Thanks.

crawdad- I was hoping you'd check this remix out, thanks! I did try to make space for things. Regarding the vocals, my chain is a Rode NTK to an Api repackaged thing (Brent Averill) to a Distressor to Paris. That should be decent I would think (though I'm not so thrilled with the Rode NTK anymore), but I think the distortion is, of course, pilot error. I think I just over did it on the Distressor with too much compression and the harmonic distortion thing it's got. I think it might be alright on a single lead, but when there's the two vocals, maybe it gets to be too much. Plus, then in the mix, I added a little Ren Vox compression :rolleyes: . And then a little reverb.
Have you noticed this in all the songs, or just this one?

Pilot error is the main reason I'm so fed up with home recording, I'm so sick of not knowing what I'm doing, and trying to get results beyond what I'm capable of. It would be great to make a real record, with an engineer who new what they were doing! (The big advance would be kinda cool too, or even a small one :) )

Btw, I'm writing a little song that was insprired by a thread of yours, and I'm gonna try and do it real quick, not worrying about the recording at all, and not with a million tracks like I always do. Just as a little game to get myself out of this rut I'm in.

Thanks for checking out the remix, sorry for all the incoherant rambling...

Macle
 
I think I must have listened to version #1, because I'm listening to v2 now and like the vocal mesh a lot more than I remember yesterday. Either way the new ones are a definate improvement.
 
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