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Hey guys. I just got A LOT of this from trash at work. The only setback, as you can see, is that it's all pink, which is a color I just can't stand. Any bright ideas? I'm also trying to come up with a good strategy/pattern to arrange them, so if you have any advice, lay it on me. Thanks.

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I can't be sure without seeing it in person, but that doesn't look like real acoustic foam. It might help a little to take the edge off your echoes, but it might just as well make things worse too.

--Ethan
 
I can't be sure without seeing it in person, but that doesn't look like real acoustic foam. It might help a little to take the edge off your echoes, but it might just as well make things worse too.

--Ethan

With enough of it, he could cover it and use it as a seat :D




...he found it in a dumpster. Maybe not.
 
it will work.

while it might not have the same composition as "real" acoustic foam, it is close enough to effect a reasonable amount of damping, and the egg-crate pattern will increase diffusion. unfortunately, i dont know of a way to cover the pink without affecting its acoustic properties. a viable option might be to cover it with a thin fabric. carefully choosing the material will minimize its impact.
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yeah, guess that isnt exactly right....

my point is that over *nothing*, this foam should help a lot with flutter echo. i assumed that the OP already understood the merits of thinner acoustic type foam, an its effect on an otherwise untreated space.

the irregular pattern of the eggcrates should allow the foam to suck up hi frequencies more effectively than were it non-textured. of course, this also has the effect of thinning the foam, as indeed, a lot of material is removed.

would you prefer painted drywall?

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yeah, guess that isnt exactly right....

my point is that over *nothing*, this foam should help a lot with flutter echo. i assumed that the OP already understood the merits of thinner acoustic type foam, an its effect on an otherwise untreated space.

the irregular pattern of the eggcrates should allow the foam to suck up hi frequencies more effectively than were it non-textured. of course, this also has the effect of thinning the foam, as indeed, a lot of material is removed.

would you prefer painted drywall?

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suck up the highs....but leave the lows and mids.

makes for a very muddy sounding room.
 
I know Ethan doesn't want to say it (because it might seem biased) so I will.

Always the low end first. ALWAYS, the LOW END, FIRST.

Always, Always, ALWAYS, the LOW END FIRST.

Don't even consider trying to track down goofy little blurbs like flutter and high-end comb filtering until your lows are in order. It's almost always two steps back.

First, take care of the LOW end. Always. Always the low end FIRST. Low end to take care of firstly.
 
I know Ethan doesn't want to say it (because it might seem biased) so I will.

Always the low end first. ALWAYS, the LOW END, FIRST.

Always, Always, ALWAYS, the LOW END FIRST.

Don't even consider trying to track down goofy little blurbs like flutter and high-end comb filtering until your lows are in order. It's almost always two steps back.

First, take care of the LOW end. Always. Always the low end FIRST. Low end to take care of firstly.

Its like you're trying to speak to us, I know it!

He's right. Of course, this guy is curious if its a good plan to use this stuff since he found a heap for free. If the real responses are any indication, you shouldn't start out trying to deal with high-end frequencies, even if the materials are convenient. Maybe also grab some 703 fiberglass and work on lows at the same time, to counter the effect of *just* treating some high-frequency reflection.
 
Could you point me in right direction as how to deal with the low end. Cause for some reason I'm thinking about starting there first. I would have no idea where to start though. Thanks in advance
 
while i in no way disagree, i would like to say that "free" low end treatments have thus far eluded my finding them, save for an occasional used mattress or other nasties. and i do fully agree with doing a given task the "right" way, but sometimes, like in my HOME studio, i find compromise (especially of the financial type) to be a pretty much common theme.

to further my argument, i would like to briefly describe acoustic treatments in my modest studio. it is far from pro level, and cost exponentially less to "build". my control "room" (which is adjacent to my instrument room and neither fully separated or isolated) is controlled by only six pieces of 2x4'x2" 703 glass, six pieces of 2x4'x2" wedge aurelex, remnant carpet (on the floor, lol), and a few heavy comforters. ghetto? of course. is it perfect? far from it. but it is a HUGE improvement over PAINTED DRYWALL. the 'glass alone was nearly $100, and as a hand-to-mouther, i had to cut bux elsewhere to afford it.

in the spirit of "free" in the original post, the foam might be perfectly usable, but with obvious limitations, which are well documented on the interwebs. i suppose that i implied that the free foam would "fix" his room by posting "it will work". it wont do that, and for the same reason a thin summer sleeping bag isnt enough to sleep comfortably in a tent in 30 degree weather. but over NOTHING, it is a marked improvement.

so, question444, you should throw it back in the trash. and build a "real" studio. anything less is a waste of time, and completely unusable for audio recording, even within the confines of your home. maybe you could lease a nice room?

isnt there a forum for poor non-professional home recording enthusiasts like myself?

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there has been some very good sounding music recorded within those walls.... wait, is that *brick*?
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so obviously since a studio has recorded some musicians that you recognize, and they have no acoustic treatment (that you can see in those 400x400 pixel pictures)....obviously acoustic science has been proven wrong! Everyone here is wrong! (btw, many of the posts above you are from guys who ARE professionals in this field, even one who IS an acoustician...if I can call you that, Ethan?)
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I'll bet you I can find pictures of 100 professional studios with acoustic treatment for every one you give me that doesn't have it.
http://ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html
 
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there has been some very good sounding music recorded within those walls.... wait, is that *brick*?
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Someone let a pedophile into that studio :eek:



...and he stole all the treatment before he took those pictures :mad:
 
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I'm not knocking acoustic treatment, but I know quite a few bands who have recorded (dare I say it) professional standard albums for label release in their front rooms. It just takes great players and a decent producer.

Obviously home studios can be greatly enhanced with acoustic treatment, but it is not essential to getting a great sound.
 
the point has been missed...

while i in no way disagree... i do fully agree with doing a given task the "right" way... i find compromise (especially of the financial type) to be a pretty much common theme.


in the spirit of "free" in the original post......

i never implied that anyone use no treatment. actually, the meager treatment applied to my place made a huge difference in sound quality and my mixes, and i very much do recommend it not only in the studio, but the home theater room, and the 2 channel room (Dog knows the audio police would have a field day on someone who uses their HT system for music reproduction, but i digress--- a topic for another type of forum).

BTW, thanks for linking the ethan winer page. i have read the page previously, but i had forgotten about it. good info.
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I'm not knocking acoustic treatment, but I know quite a few bands who have recorded (dare I say it) professional standard albums for label release in their front rooms. It just takes great players and a decent producer.

Obviously home studios can be greatly enhanced with acoustic treatment, but it is not essential to getting a great sound.

yeah check out Motown. Hitsville... a couple good tunes done here..:D
 

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