Fleet Foxes cover.

[propman]

Hey guys. Again, I'm sorry I'm not around much anymore. Anyway, I did this cover of Montezuma, a song off Fleet Foxes new (unreleased but streamed) album Helplessness Blues. This song caught my attention right away and I have to cover it. Tell me what you think please!

-Adam.

 

[heatmiser]

Hey Adam - What's up man?

You have nice voice. Not familiar with this music, but it sounds pretty good although the guitar has an odd sort of swell to it (apart from just the dynamics of your playing which is cool). Is there a tremolo on there or something? Voice is crystal clear. Did you film this while tracking or go back and lip synch it up later?

 

[propman]

Hey Adam - What's up man?

You have nice voice. Not familiar with this music, but it sounds pretty good although the guitar has an odd sort of swell to it (apart from just the dynamics of your playing which is cool). Is there a tremolo on there or something? Voice is crystal clear. Did you film this while tracking or go back and lip synch it up later?

Hey Heat! No, no tremolo. I don't know what you could be hearing. Maybe the stereo delay? I did film it while tracking. I had a small stereo recorder on the amp (ZOOM) and of course the mic going into my DAW, then the camera. Between all three of those, it was fairly difficult to sync everything up but I managed. I'm a big fan of videoing the tracking sessions. I have an idea that's going to utilize that at some point in the future but I don't want to blab about it. If it never got done I'd feel like an idiot. I'm glad you liked it!

-Adam.

 

[propman]

Heat, I figured it out. It was pumping from the compressor!
I like solving mysteries...

-Adam.

 

[rayc]

Excellent rendition Adam. I've missed your voice. I'm intrigued by your fututre direction suggestion.
Did you have to wait for the family to go out or do you tie them up in the cellar?

 

[propman]

Excellent rendition Adam. I've missed your voice. I'm intrigued by your fututre direction suggestion.
Did you have to wait for the family to go out or do you tie them up in the cellar?

No, it was early in the morning. My dad was asleep and my grandma was off to the side watching me. Thanks! I'm glad I was missed.

-Adam.

 

[chrisharris]

You're talented. I'm not sure if you were aware of that or not, so I'm confirming it for you.

 

[Tobe]

Jeff Buckley pisses on Justin Bieber. You are more like the former... a cleaner guitar with a wider space would better prop your style.

 

[propman]

You're talented. I'm not sure if you were aware of that or not, so I'm confirming it for you.

Thank you!

Jeff Buckley pisses on Justin Bieber. You are more like the former... a cleaner guitar with a wider space would better prop your style.

I'm honestly not sure why Justin Bieber was brought up, nor compared to Jeff Buckley (who, up until wikipedia I hadn't really heard of) but...thank you?

Anyway, I myself quite liked the amount of distortion I had on the guitar but each to their own opinion I suppose. Now, what do you mean by "a wider space"? I'm assuming you're talking about verb wise and the like but part of me wants to be a nitwit and say "duh...dum, doy, the living room was the biggest place I could find..."

-Adam.

 

[Tobe]

Propman,

I bought up Bieber because he was supposed to have started his queue on youtube (which you are trying to do), and Buckley because he is more your style... please allow me to be creative in my positive appraisal...

I think the distorted guitar is a bit nowhere in this track, and you would get more benefit from a cleaner guitar sound widely spread... which means a fake stereophonic techniques that give the vocal more room down the middle. Stuff like taking 2 copies of the guitar, panning them wide and opposite, and adding a bit of delay, or detune or different eq to one side.

And try listening to Buckley, it might help and you might like it. Try this for a start
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-5136374/jeff_buckley_last_goodbye_official_music_video/

 

[propman]

Propman,

I bought up Bieber because he was supposed to have started his queue on youtube (which you are trying to do), and Buckley because he is more your style... please allow me to be creative in my positive appraisal...

I think the distorted guitar is a bit nowhere in this track, and you would get more benefit from a cleaner guitar sound widely spread... which means a fake stereophonic techniques that give the vocal more room down the middle. Stuff like taking 2 copies of the guitar, panning them wide and opposite, and adding a bit of delay, or detune or different eq to one side.

And try listening to Buckley, it might help and you might like it. Try this for a start
Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye (Official Music Video) - Video

I'm all for creative appraisal! It just went over my head, that's all. Anyway, it's a cover and I really don't want to take the time to drag all of my recording equipment back into my living room to spend another hour doing retakes. Call me lazy, and possibly creatively stubborn...because both would be proper descriptors.

Anyway, I totally get what you're saying now. I tried to add a bit of space with stereo delay, but it kind of buried it. I've heard people do what you're talking about to bring vocals to the front. I haven't heard it done so much in the way you suggest but I imagine that's because it's done to redirect focus to something else...Primarily the vocals, I'd assume. Thanks for the tip though. I'll definitely try that out on some future tracks. I have a few that I've written that I can right off hand tell would benefit from that treatment.

(Last Goodbye) That was a pretty decent song. He's dead? That's a shame. I'll try to check out some of his other stuff later on.

-Adam.

 

[Tobe]

God children are so smart

As for Buckley. Yup, he's dead. Right again!

I like you Propman, I am just having an old man giggle at your wisdom. You will understand in about 20 years.

 

[K-dub]

I was listening to Fleet Foxes last night.

Great job, Adam, particularly tracked live -- and I second Mr. Harris' comment above.

 

[propman]

God children are so smart

As for Buckley. Yup, he's dead. Right again!

I like you Propman, I am just having an old man giggle at your wisdom. You will understand in about 20 years.

I think you're calling me intelligent, but I've been called smart (short for smart-mouth apparently, mostly by my mom) enough that it's the first definition that comes to mind.

I'm glad I'm liked. Giggle all you like old man! (Just as long as it doesn't seem creepy...)

I was listening to Fleet Foxes last night.

Great job, Adam, particularly tracked live -- and I second Mr. Harris' comment above.

Thank you kindly. I really love their music. I went through so many takes...I filled up my camera like three times trying to "tape" it, between me forgetting the words, my voice going out on me and my grandma hacking her guts out on the sidelines.

I'm really happy with the way it turned out though and I'm glad others seem to me.

-Adam.

 

[K-dub]

Yeah ... my son ... also an incredible guitarist -- you should hear his version of Steve Howe's "Mood for a Day" ... he does it better ... he's as of late been playing me Beulah and all sort of folks associated with Elephant 6 ... and the incredible explosion of talent that particular association spawned. Fleet Fox has that association, I believe?

Your recording, to be honest was good mostly in context of what you did -- and most will allow that no matter what, if it took you 20 takes to get that one perfect one, you did the best you could -- for your result was a wonderful capture. Jeff Buckley comparison (which it was reminiscent of) is high praise ... even from wheezy geezers who chuckle at the naivety of youth.

If one were to step outside that perspective, it would be a different perspective.

Still, your talent is obvious. Your voice ... your ability to deliver and convey, is your strength.

 

[propman]

Your recording, to be honest was good mostly in context of what you did -- and most will allow that no matter what, if it took you 20 takes to get that one perfect one, you did the best you could -- for your result was a wonderful capture. Jeff Buckley comparison (which it was reminiscent of) is high praise ... even from wheezy geezers who chuckle at the naivety of youth.

If one were to step outside that perspective, it would be a different perspective.

Still, your talent is obvious. Your voice ... your ability to deliver and convey, is your strength.

I'm not to terribly sure what you mean...The take was by no means perfect or necessarily the best I thought I could do. It simply, felt good to me.
As for the other things you said, I don't know how to discern them. Maybe youth is wasted on the young if so many things make me feel stupid...

-Adam.

 

[K-dub]

I'm not to terribly sure what you mean...The take was by no means perfect or necessarily the best I thought I could do. It simply, felt good to me.
As for the other things you said, I don't know how to discern them. Maybe youth is wasted on the young if so many things make me feel stupid...

-Adam.

The quality of the recording wasn't up to par with the performance, A ... so for what it was in context (a home movie, essentially) --- from that perspective, the lack of quality of sound is "let slide".

If we were to step out of home movie mode and comment on the sound itself -- if that was the focus (this is a recording bbs, after all), then discussion wouldn't turn to how well you performed, it would be more centered on the sound of the sound of the production -- which didn't appear to be your focus -- and so that discussion isn't made.

What this looks and sounds a bit like is something that was simply a snapshot of a moment, whatever natural inherent flaws may have occurred while doing it. (a.k.a. by no means perfect or the best you thought you could do.)

Kev-

 

[propman]

The quality of the recording wasn't up to par with the performance, A ... so for what it was in context (a home movie, essentially) --- from that perspective, the lack of quality of sound is "let slide".

If we were to step out of home movie mode and comment on the sound itself -- if that was the focus (this is a recording bbs, after all), then discussion wouldn't turn to how well you performed, it would be more centered on the sound of the sound of the production -- which didn't appear to be your focus -- and so that discussion isn't made.

What this looks and sounds a bit like is something that was simply a snapshot of a moment, whatever natural inherent flaws may have occurred while doing it. (a.k.a. by no means perfect or the best you thought you could do.)

Kev-

Thank you for explaining.

-Adam.

 

[Bubba po]

I thought that was excellent. I don't agree with the comments about the sound of the guitar, I loved the slightly overdriven sound when picked hard - it's emotive in the same way as the guitar sound used by the English artist Billy Bragg. If you've never heard of him, Propman, I'd recommend a listen even though I don't think you have a great deal to learn from him. I echo the Jeff Buckley comparisons. You're a very talented chap.

 

[Bubba po]

The quality of the recording wasn't up to par with the performance, A ... so for what it was in context (a home movie, essentially) --- from that perspective, the lack of quality of sound is "let slide".

If we were to step out of home movie mode and comment on the sound itself -- if that was the focus (this is a recording bbs, after all), then discussion wouldn't turn to how well you performed, it would be more centered on the sound of the sound of the production -- which didn't appear to be your focus -- and so that discussion isn't made.

What this looks and sounds a bit like is something that was simply a snapshot of a moment, whatever natural inherent flaws may have occurred while doing it. (a.k.a. by no means perfect or the best you thought you could do.)

Kev-

K-dub, in my opinion, this was a great performance that transcended the quality of the recording, which wasn't really bad by any standards. I'd much rather see and hear this than a sucky performance recorded in the state-of-the-art.

I think we lose sight of this, sometimes.