First try at Parallel Compression on drums...

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Thanx alot guys.

60's Guy...I really appreciate that you dig the harmonies. Those are always fun to do (when you're not concerned about paying for studio time) :)

The last few posts confirmed to me that there's at least SOMETHING a little weird with the drums...snare more specifically. But I was so concerned with the compression that it didn't occur to me that the snare track might be a little out of line with the overheads. I tried flipping the phase, but that makes it worse. Looks like I'll have to bring the tracks into my computer and align them. VSPACEBOY might have nailed it.

The time it would take me to import and export tracks, I might as well re-track and feel better about the whole thing.

Does anyone know how you can record one song and everything lines up and sounds great...and the next song, drums are phasing? Can slightly moving a snare mic cause that to happen???

(I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to my own question...of course it can make a difference!!!!)
 
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What struck me was the kick; it was vey present, but not very big; it seemed "pointier" and higher pitch than your usual choices. I'm not sure I didn't like it; it just sturk me as very different. You miking closer to the beater?

What is your mic setup? I'm trying to learn how. I have 8 channe;s to work with so I'm doing kick, uder the hats, top snare, botom snare, each tom, and an overhead. I HATE my snare sound, but I think it's the drum more than the recording.
 
im not in to this type of music but the kick seems to be too flat for more.. i like more of a peak in my low end tis helps with definition, perhaps you can introduce some sub bass and back off the compression on the kick

try it and see if u like it, you must fail before you succeed
 
Yeah, you guys are right. There is too much wrong with this drum track for me to ever be happy with it. I appreciate the comments, guys. I probably would have talked myself into thinking it's not that bad if you guys weren't honest.

Back to the drawing board for the drum track.

Thanx again, everyone.
 
You still didn't answer my question; what is your basic drum mic setup?
 
Llarion said:
You still didn't answer my question; what is your basic drum mic setup?
Shit sorry dude.

I use 4 mics.

D-112 on the kik
Sm57 on the snare
2X AKG C1100's for overheads

I place the 2 overheads in the Mixerman method ( I think that's what it's called), which has one over the drummer's shoulder and the other one directly above the snare pointing straight down. I'm sure you've read about it here.
 
For what it's worth, I re-tracked the drums.

I think I know what the problem was, though I'm just guessing. But I changed my head phones a while ago, and the new ones sound better but are less bright than the ones I used to have. I found that I wasn't HITTING my drums because I wasn't hearing the click as well as I used to.

So, I cranked up the phones and got much better levels and the kind of sound I used to get. You got to HIT those drums if you want them to CRACK!!!

(I also got rid of the rim shot and played snare all the way through....)

The new link be: http://www.ramirami.com/go/music-download?id=172285
 
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RAMI said:
Shit sorry dude.

I use 4 mics.

D-112 on the kik
Sm57 on the snare
2X AKG C1100's for overheads

I place the 2 overheads in the Mixerman method ( I think that's what it's called), which has one over the drummer's shoulder and the other one directly above the snare pointing straight down. I'm sure you've read about it here.

So you're a Recorderman man, huh? Well, it seems to work for you! Where you you put the SM57? topside, bottom side, somewhere else? how do you position the kick mic?
 
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