First attempt at guitar / bass recording myself.

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I've been at learning how to play guitar / bass now for about 1.5 months. No lessons, so I'm fairly sure I'm doing almost everything wrong, but I just had to record something using my newly learned instruments.

I thought about it, and came up with a perfect song for the occasion. The more I listen to this, the more I think some slightly more aggressive vocals would fit this better, but I used what I had.

Thought I'd share to brighten your day. :D

Also, the bass should sound good as far as the instrument / amp goes (being played by a complete and total noob), but the guitar is a crappy Fender going through an even crappier Squier practice amp being played by an even crappier guitarist.

"Why Yo Momma Gotsta Be so FAT???"
 
LOL.... nice lyrics. The burp and other bodily sounds were slight turn offs. :P

Guitaring and bass-ing sounds good enough for me. Keep playing!

I liked the backing vox the best, not that weird voice you were singing with for the lead, though I know it was probably appropriate for the part.
 
LOL.... nice lyrics. The burp and other bodily sounds were slight turn offs. :P

Guitaring and bass-ing sounds good enough for me. Keep playing!

I liked the backing vox the best, not that weird voice you were singing with for the lead, though I know it was probably appropriate for the part.

Interesting... I'm intrigued as to why you liked the backing vocals so much...? I thought they definitely added to the weirdness of the song, as the only half-way normal sounding instrument in the bunch, but.... hmmm...

Thanks for the kudos on my playing! I feel like a fish out of water, for sure, but, I'll definitely keep it up. Hopefully someday soon I'll be able to play more than just C,G,F,C,G,F.

Also, if the general consensus of the sound-FX are that they detract from the song, I'll get rid of em'. I'm on the fence about those as it is.

Thanks for the comment!
 
Interesting... I'm intrigued as to why you liked the backing vocals so much...? I thought they definitely added to the weirdness of the song, as the only half-way normal sounding instrument in the bunch, but.... hmmm...

Thanks for the kudos on my playing! I feel like a fish out of water, for sure, but, I'll definitely keep it up. Hopefully someday soon I'll be able to play more than just C,G,F,C,G,F.

Also, if the general consensus of the sound-FX are that they detract from the song, I'll get rid of em'. I'm on the fence about those as it is.

Thanks for the comment!
I would say I liked them because of the very fact that they ARE the only half-way normal sounding instrument. They sound good.

No problem! I've been playing the guitar for 5 years and I feel like a complete beginner still. It won't be long, though.. if you stay dedicated you'll improve quick.

I guess you're not alone with the weird FX in songs, as you've reminded me with the "Cat" song of mine... such FX are okay in weird, comical bits such as these, I'd say. heh
 
Ha, ha, not bad for a beginner, Jason...:D
I would put just one burp at the end of the song right after the last chord.
Recording's very good, bass seemed to lack some low end to me, but I'm on phones right now....I really liked the ooh-la-las in the chorus. You need some girls singing those...;) Nice work!

Joey :):):):)
 
Hmm, pretty good I guess. Keep practicing.

If you're not gonna take lessons or anything, I think the best way to get better is to play along with music you like. You don't have to play leads and shit note for note, just bang out the rhythm guitar or bass while listening to a CD or mp3 player.
 
Ha, ha, not bad for a beginner, Jason...:D
I would put just one burp at the end of the song right after the last chord.
Recording's very good, bass seemed to lack some low end to me, but I'm on phones right now....I really liked the ooh-la-las in the chorus. You need some girls singing those...;) Nice work!

Joey :):):):)

Alright... So we've got a vote for "just one burp at the end".. Good, good.. Thanks for being so consistent with your comments, Joey. I can always count on ya. You almost have enough songs to put out a new album, don't ya?

I would say I liked them because of the very fact that they ARE the only half-way normal sounding instrument. They sound good.

No problem! I've been playing the guitar for 5 years and I feel like a complete beginner still. It won't be long, though.. if you stay dedicated you'll improve quick.

I guess you're not alone with the weird FX in songs, as you've reminded me with the "Cat" song of mine... such FX are okay in weird, comical bits such as these, I'd say. heh

5 years! Wow... I've got a long way to go. I'm also very interested in how you record your acoustic guitar.... That's gotta be one of the brightest guitar sounds I've come across in a long time.

Hmm, pretty good I guess. Keep practicing.

If you're not gonna take lessons or anything, I think the best way to get better is to play along with music you like. You don't have to play leads and shit note for note, just bang out the rhythm guitar or bass while listening to a CD or mp3 player.

Dang! I get a "pretty good" from Greg L with those guitar sounds!? C'mon, man... You're gettin' soft. Those guitar sounds suck and we both know it. Thanks for strokin' the ego, though. Also, thanks for the idea on learnin' guitar... For now, I'm using a lot of youtube training videos, but playing along with songs is how I learned to play the drums, so... Makes perfect sense. Thanks to you, as well, for your consistency in listening and commenting on my stuff.
 
Yeah the sounds suck, but you're playing wasn't that bad. Definitely okay for one month of playing time.

I'm completely self-taught on everything I do. I grew up listening to and playing along with punk rock and rockabilly stuff. While I don't have much in the chops department, I did develop a skill for learning by ear, playing in time, and being able to emulate what I'm hearing on the record. I'd come home from school every day and bash my sister's drums along to Ramones records. They're not the fastest band ever, but their stuff is reasonably fast for a beginner. I didn't have an electric guitar at first, so I learned how to downstrum an acoustic so fast it sounded like an electric. Lol. To this day I can play 8ths on the hats and downstrum a guitar pretty fast. Those 2 skills, if you can even call them that, aren't necessary for everyone, but they're pretty vital in the kind of music I play. But that's all I got. I can play simple stuff really fast. One of these days I may take lessons and actually learn the theory behind what I'm doing, but probably not. It would probably screw me all up. But if you want to get really good, combine some actual lessons from a pro with your ear training and you'll get good fast.
 
I've been playing for 40 years and 'I'm still learning to play the damn guitar!!' :laughings: Sounds pretty good. Timing is good. There's only 7 major chords. You have three of them down and the hardest ones. 4 more to go!! :cool:

Dave
 
OK First:

The fart...way too wet...add more gas.

Two thing to work on with the guitar:

a] Tone ...brighten it up...which will require a little more care in execution...cuz the missed notes and assorted boinks will not be hidden in the mud.

b] fast chord changes. the 'and -of-four' beat is missing when you change chords...you have to get from on to the other faster. Spend a few days doing nothing but hitting all the 8th strums, and getting to the next chord on the 'one'. The holes hurt groove*.

BTW...Gerg's last offering....I was wicked impressed that he didn't leave any holes in the guitar chop I could hear. If you wanted a performance to study, that would be it...tone and acuracy and speed.

Strum on!

* That's one of the most significant, yet under-appreciated skills of a deft guitarist: holding for full-duration, and making the chord-changes likkedy, hitting all the notes. And if you don't work on hitting every beat, and always use that 8th duration to laze into the next chord, it becomes a hard-to-break habit. And that applies to the simplest of 3-chord bar-form rock and roll. Those spaces on '& of 4' hardly exist at all in any pro recording...cuz the producers flog the guitar players into workin' on it.....almost universally...with studio newbs.
 
Yeah the sounds suck, but you're playing wasn't that bad. Definitely okay for one month of playing time.

I'm completely self-taught on everything I do. I grew up listening to and playing along with punk rock and rockabilly stuff. While I don't have much in the chops department, I did develop a skill for learning by ear, playing in time, and being able to emulate what I'm hearing on the record. I'd come home from school every day and bash my sister's drums along to Ramones records. They're not the fastest band ever, but their stuff is reasonably fast for a beginner. I didn't have an electric guitar at first, so I learned how to downstrum an acoustic so fast it sounded like an electric. Lol. To this day I can play 8ths on the hats and downstrum a guitar pretty fast. Those 2 skills, if you can even call them that, aren't necessary for everyone, but they're pretty vital in the kind of music I play. But that's all I got. I can play simple stuff really fast. One of these days I may take lessons and actually learn the theory behind what I'm doing, but probably not. It would probably screw me all up. But if you want to get really good, combine some actual lessons from a pro with your ear training and you'll get good fast.

Right on, man. I was born with rhythm in my blood. I remember walking home from Jr. High, timing the passing of the sidewalk slabs, and chewing my gum in the off-beat. Heck, I remember before that, singing in Primary School when I was 5, and adding eighth notes while singing - and wondering why everyone else wasn't doing the same thing. Got my first kit when I was 14 because my parents (totally non-musical family) were sick of me banging on everything else. So, yeah... I've never had a lesson, either. Just kind of always had the 4-count going on subliminally.

As far as guitar and bass goes, I'll probably end up taking lessons from people here and there, and right now, I'm sucking up all the good advice I can find. It's good to know self-taught people are out there, too.

Also, might I add... Your ability to record and mix your stuff is just as amazing as your ability to create and play it. You've got much more than just the ability to play fast 8th notes. Kudos, bro.

I've been playing for 40 years and 'I'm still learning to play the damn guitar!!' :laughings: Sounds pretty good. Timing is good. There's only 7 major chords. You have three of them down and the hardest ones. 4 more to go!! :cool:

Dave

Thanks, Dave, and yeah-right, uh-huh.. You're "still learning" eh'? I'd be interested to hear your stuff... Probably would blow me away. Enough of the modesty already... ;) As far as the chords played on this song, they were of the power-chord persuasion, so ... yeah.. Those are a bit easier. On the acoustic, I currently know and can play A,C,D,E,F,G majors, as well as A,D and E minors. I learned A7 and D7 yesterday. That B chord is a flippin' menace, though! I can't even hit it, let along change quickly to it. I'll eventually get it.

Thanks for listening!

OK First:

The fart...way too wet...add more gas.

Two thing to work on with the guitar:

a] Tone ...brighten it up...which will require a little more care in execution...cuz the missed notes and assorted boinks will not be hidden in the mud.

b] fast chord changes. the 'and -of-four' beat is missing when you change chords...you have to get from on to the other faster. Spend a few days doing nothing but hitting all the 8th strums, and getting to the next chord on the 'one'. The holes hurt groove*.

BTW...Gerg's last offering....I was wicked impressed that he didn't leave any holes in the guitar chop I could hear. If you wanted a performance to study, that would be it...tone and acuracy and speed.

Strum on!

* That's one of the most significant, yet under-appreciated skills of a deft guitarist: holding for full-duration, and making the chord-changes likkedy, hitting all the notes. And if you don't work on hitting every beat, and always use that 8th duration to laze into the next chord, it becomes a hard-to-break habit. And that applies to the simplest of 3-chord bar-form rock and roll. Those spaces on '& of 4' hardly exist at all in any pro recording...cuz the producers flog the guitar players into workin' on it.....almost universally...with studio newbs.

More gas, lets flap - noted. :D

Thanks tons for your advice, Jeff. I always read your comments quite thoroughly and have learned a lot of technique from your posts on others' threads.

a. You're right on. The tone sucks, and I kind of like it muddy because it covers up my mistakes. There are 4 tracks of guitar, and that makes it sound okay. Gotta work on those changes and string misses before I brighten anything up, or it'll sound like utter crap.

b. Again - right spot-on. Going from F to C just about kills me. C to G is okay, and C to F is okay, too... But that "& of 4" (F back to C) nails me about 80% of the time. I WILL get it eventually, though. Great idea on playing along with Greg L's latest tune. It'll take me about 3 weeks to get so I can play the correct strings at all. Heh... Maybe I'll work towards covering it. :eek:

Many multiplicities of thanks for your comment, Jeff. :)
 
Well, the modern miracle of digital recording makes it real easy to copy/past a strum where there oughtta be one! {I've NEVER done that}:rolleyes:
 
5 years! Wow... I've got a long way to go. I'm also very interested in how you record your acoustic guitar.... That's gotta be one of the brightest guitar sounds I've come across in a long time.
I need to ask, are you referring to the acoustic lead during the chorus, or the acoustic rhythm (which is hard to even pick out--and I may not even have it in that mixdown... hmm) during the chorus?

Either way, I'm pretty sure I went direct in to my Mbox 2 with my acoustic. I play an Ibanez AEL20E if you're interested.
 
A song in the clinic with a fart in it...

Where the fuck is dogbreath when you need him. Ultimately if you need tips with that hes your man.


Not bad dude. Speed it up a couple BPM's and you got yourself a good Vandals clone tune.

Sorry everytime i post in the clinic i refer to some other 'professional' act. I hear a distorted guitar i aotumatically patch it to something in my memory banks that remotely sounds like it.

I'm not detracting from your talents or originality. And for anyone reading this that i have done this to i also spologise.

It's just how my grey matter is wired.


for a month and half of playing thats not a bad job. I've heard much shittier guitar work on punk records that are supposed ot be 'classics'

kudos to you.


the sound effects. not a huge fan. i think you should run with the suggestion of just throwing one in at the end.


Good effort.
 
Well, the modern miracle of digital recording makes it real easy to copy/past a strum where there oughtta be one! {I've NEVER done that}:rolleyes:

Yeah... I considered doing that. I even recorded me doing the chord changes for 10 straight minutes, and intended to copy and paste the appropriate / best ones where they needed to be, but then I thought - "Where's the fun in that? I won't learn a thing..." So... Yeah.. This is honest-to-goodness playing as if it were live. (Oh, man... Just thinking of doing that live gives me the jeeblies.... ouch)

I need to ask, are you referring to the acoustic lead during the chorus, or the acoustic rhythm (which is hard to even pick out--and I may not even have it in that mixdown... hmm) during the chorus?

Either way, I'm pretty sure I went direct in to my Mbox 2 with my acoustic. I play an Ibanez AEL20E if you're interested.

Yeah... I'm talking about the 2 or 3 measures right before the 2nd verse. It's when the other instruments fade away and the guitar is left naked. It sounds *great*!
 
A song in the clinic with a fart in it...

Where the fuck is dogbreath when you need him. Ultimately if you need tips with that hes your man.


Not bad dude. Speed it up a couple BPM's and you got yourself a good Vandals clone tune.

Sorry everytime i post in the clinic i refer to some other 'professional' act. I hear a distorted guitar i aotumatically patch it to something in my memory banks that remotely sounds like it.

I'm not detracting from your talents or originality. And for anyone reading this that i have done this to i also spologise.

It's just how my grey matter is wired.


for a month and half of playing thats not a bad job. I've heard much shittier guitar work on punk records that are supposed ot be 'classics'

kudos to you.


the sound effects. not a huge fan. i think you should run with the suggestion of just throwing one in at the end.


Good effort.

Thanks for listening, and dude.... No offense taken. I'm just looking to get better - and if at this point I can be attached to anything professionally done, I'll consider that a good thing.

I think I'm gonna work with less flatuation and eructation, and go with cows and elephants instead.... :p No idea...

Maybe I'll just re-record the whole thing again because it's fun.
 
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