Finally It Makes Sense

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i've upgraded from Mixcraft to Studio One Pro and coming from a DAW that didn't utilize a mixer (Mixcraft) to one that does it certainly was a steep learning curve. couldn't grasp signal routing, sends, aux channels, busses, etc. but i kept plugging at it cuz i'm writing a song that i'm psyched about and i didn't want it to be limited by Mixcraft. it just all clicked last nite. kept coming to sites like this and others and watching tutorials and now it all makes sense. the effects/plugins i used to use never seemed like a big deal to me but now that i'm using them properly as sends from aux channels to groups it's really making a big difference.

i was testing the CLA SSL presets last nite, and not for nothing i know he knows his stuff but to me it always seems his presets make everything ultra bright and thinner. i guess that's his sound.
 
Congratulations on the upgrade. Studio one is still kinda new, make sure you research how different third party plugs will perform with it. I made the mistake of buying Superior Drummer 2.0, only to find out it won't work with Studio One. I'm sure they've updated it to fix problems since then, but do the research. Have fun and enjoy your new DAW.
 
rfahey86 said:
Congratulations on the upgrade. Studio one is still kinda new, make sure you research how different third party plugs will perform with it. I made the mistake of buying Superior Drummer 2.0, only to find out it won't work with Studio One. I'm sure they've updated it to fix problems since then, but do the research. Have fun and enjoy your new DAW.
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He has the Pro version so he can use any plug. If you had the Artist version (my guess), no, it won't allow using 3rd party plugs.
 
yeah i have Pro version so i can utilize any VST/3rd party plugin. i just recorded the greatest song i ever wrote on this thing. once i learned signal routing (and i'm kicking myself over how easy it is in hindsight) and was using busses and equally sending reverb and compression to multiple tracks this thing just sounded great.

i checked out the demo for superior drummer and while i'm sure it's an upgrade over ezdrummer, i just know how to use ezdrummer and i don't wanna spend time learning a new plugin. for the role that drums play in my songs (not a featured instrument) the payoff of learning how to figure out superior's involved interface wasn't worth it.

i really like how S1 separates the mixing stage from the mastering stage. it forces you to acknowledge that mixing and mastering are two separate phases. and props to them for enabling any changes you make in the mixing/tracking stage to be automatically updated in the mastering stage. its more intuitive for me and how my brain works. this just goes to show you can try to learn one of the bigger well known DAW's like Cubase and Pro Tools but if all you're doing is reading forums and watching tutorials and not making music just so you can say you use a sequencer that the majority of the people use, you're short selling yourself. i know S1 is the new kid on the block but i completed a song in 2 days. boom. sorry to sound like i'm an S1 rep. substitute S1 for any lesser known DAW and my point still the same. i was just excited to finally get the hang of this. you always see people making fun of noobs for asking how-to quesitons and wanting to be spoon fed how to do something, and i can see why. if you're serious about your art you'll put the time into learning how to use the tools you have and when you learn it'll be a bigger achievement.
 
$200. thank god i realized i had Studio One Artist (their lite version) for free when i got my audio interface, so that's the price to upgrade to the Pro version. don't know how much Pro is outright by itself, don't know and don't care. lol worth every penny. i didn't mean for this thread to be an advertisement for S1, sorry if it came out that way.
 
ExpressMix said:
He has the Pro version so he can use any plug. If you had the Artist version (my guess), no, it won't allow using 3rd party plugs.
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I wasn't a problem is the Studio One allowing 3rd party plug ins. It was just a glitch with either S1 or Superior Drummer. Like I said I'm sure it's been resolved by now. Kind of like how EZ Player would not work in R.E.A.P.E.R. for the longest time.

BTW, I think S1 has one of the best looking interfaces out there.
 
you know what i mean, like all drum instruments going to a drum bus, drum bus has a send routed to an FX channel that has reverb/compression on it so instead of having to put FX on each individual drum track i can do it just to drum bus. if that doesn't make sense then insert whatever it is you do when you're setting up your signal routing in your own DAW and that's what i'm referring to. i turn knobs and push buttons and great sounds happen and i make magic baby, i'll leave the mixing lingo to the mixing professors here. i make music.

its what i do.
 
Just to make a point, Mixcraft 5 is mixer based, and it allows send tracks.
 
yeah, it was kinda weird they put that in until version 5. that's like Ford Edge, which debuted in 2006, not having the option to drive in reverse until 4 years later. lol since i have firestudio mobile that's also by presonus i think i read S1 is optimized for their interfaces. i don't know if that's true but if all things being equal between mixcraft 5 and S1, with the only difference is S1 was designed specifically to play nice with presonus products in particular then i guess its worth the price. mixcraft on the whole is great, rather cartoony interface though. you definitely don't feel you're making music on something the big boys would use. mixcraft is certainly more cost effective if you're just starting out and wanna just lay tracks down.
 
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