"Final Daze"

[K-dub]

The opening part of the song is basically simple guitar, vocal and percussion ...

Main question: Does it drag as such? Does too little happen for too long?

Thanks!

Final Daze


Best,

Kev-

 

[heatmiser]

Good job man. Thought the vocals were a bit up front compared to the instruments at first, but I loved the way it slowed down and the bottom dropped out around 1:13-1:21. Like the part that immediately follows and the subsequent slow-downs (at which times the vocals are perhaps sitting a bit better?). A nice full, ambitious mix. Almost reminds me of the Moody Blues. A bit topical for my tastes, but what the heck...it works .

 

[Supercreep]

Love the acoustics.

At :17 or so there is a cymbal crash that's just not in time.

Very interesting tempo changes. I like. Your instrumentation choices are right on. I like the orchestral stuff too. This is sort of Pete Townsend-esque imo. Not in a derivative way, just stylistically.

Nice work.

 

[guitar zero]

I agree with the moody blues flavor, and I too am kind of weary of songs of the government protest ilk. That said, I like the overall composition and mix. I like the tempo and volume changes which a song of this length needs. I think things are mixed pretty well. I do think the cymbal crash at about 0:17 is off timing wise, but that's an easy fix. Nice work.

What was your vocal mic?

Oh wow, I see after posting supercreep agrees with the off timing cymbal crash.

 

[K-dub]

I too am kind of weary of songs of the government protest ilk.

lol ... it's an election year, and one of the candidates is campaigning on the platform of "CHANGE" ... "AGAIN".

What was your vocal mic?

AT4050 through a Peavy VMP2

Oh wow, I see after posting supercreep agrees with the off timing cymbal crash.

Yes ... see my answer to Casey below ...

... and THANKS for the comments!

Kev-

 

[K-dub]

Love the acoustics.

MXL Stereo 603's right out of the box, through the VMP2 on a Larrivee D35 -- not that you asked, just sharing.

At :17 or so there is a cymbal crash that's just not in time.

Actually, IT IS in time. I'm slightly out. Ve have vays of making it work ... ... the main problem though, is it isn't associated w/ any underlying component ... it's sort of a random hit.

Very interesting tempo changes. I like. Your instrumentation choices are right on. I like the orchestral stuff too. This is sort of Pete Townsend-esque imo. Not in a derivative way, just stylistically.

Nice work.

Thanks C! There's still lead guitar work to be added ... but I've got to find someone who "gets" the style who is willing to participate ...

Best,

Kev-

 

[K-dub]

Good job man.

Thanks!

Thought the vocals were a bit up front compared to the instruments at first, but I loved the way it slowed down and the bottom dropped out around 1:13-1:21. Like the part that immediately follows and the subsequent slow-downs (at which times the vocals are perhaps sitting a bit better?). A nice full, ambitious mix.

Agreed on the vox ... there about a db or so too forward. And I appreciated the comments about liking the bottom dropping out. It helps me know arrangement choices were appreciated. The mix, though, isn't done ... I've got more to add -- and since no one has mentioned the opening dragging a bit ... then I'll assume that it works.

Almost reminds me of the Moody Blues. A bit topical for my tastes, but what the heck...it works .

See above reply.

btw ... heading up your way today. We've a home in Harpswell.

Kev-

 

[VomitHatSteve]

Sounds pretty good. There weren't any parts that stuck out as dragging on to me.

I enjoyed the french horn part.

It seemed like the vocals had a bit more reverb than neccessary. This was especially pronounced in the left channel during the verses.

 

[DavidK]

Very nice song Kev. Reminds me of something, cant think what. Styx I think.

Actually, IT IS in time. I'm slightly out.

In time or not, its quite distracting.

It seemed like the vocals had a bit more reverb than neccessary.

Agreed, they are also too up front for my tastes. The sound quality overall is excellent. Well done.

 

[TripleM]

Generally very good as usual.

Not sure what's with the acoustic in the intro. Doing some stereo EQ? It sound noticably duller on the left side than the right. It gives the perception of an unbalanced mix. Heard some background noise around :11 like the pick hit the guitar's body.

Lead Vox could come down a couple db's at least. Liked some of the reverb effects (e.g., 1:19) That effect right there might be just a bit heavy - sounds like someone pushed you down the Grand Canyon right there. I'd back off the wet/dry mix just a nudge.

Drum sound is cool. Different from the usual, but still cool.

The guitars at the change up at 2:18 were excellent sounding.

The synth at 2:41 is about 3db too loud.

Everything I didn't comment on is terrific.

 

[K-dub]

Generally very good as usual.

Not sure what's with the acoustic in the intro. Doing some stereo EQ? It sound noticably duller on the left side than the right. It gives the perception of an unbalanced mix. Heard some background noise around :11 like the pick hit the guitar's body.

Lead Vox could come down a couple db's at least. Liked some of the reverb effects (e.g., 1:19) That effect right there might be just a bit heavy - sounds like someone pushed you down the Grand Canyon right there. I'd back off the wet/dry mix just a nudge.

Drum sound is cool. Different from the usual, but still cool.

The guitars at the change up at 2:18 were excellent sounding.

The synth at 2:41 is about 3db too loud.

Everything I didn't comment on is terrific.

Oh Crap. Someone with an incredibly discerning ear decided to comment.

You're right. You and I both know it.

My only excuse is this is not done yet.

K-

 

[K-dub]

Sounds pretty good. There weren't any parts that stuck out as dragging on to me.

I enjoyed the french horn part.

It seemed like the vocals had a bit more reverb than neccessary. This was especially pronounced in the left channel during the verses.

Good ears ... it's caused by the delay I employed - it is heavy left.

I've a good friend that disagrees w/ my decision on that effect ... and w/ your input ... I'm beginning to see his point.

It's a matter of point ... effects should stand out when standing out is the intended impact ... but should subtle and blend unless the effect IS the point.

But I didn't intend that effect to stand out ... the only place I wanted effects to be pronounced was the long reverb tails just prior to the choruses.

That's why it's important to comment on anything ... one never knows what the person producing the shit is mulling on their own.

Helpful comment. Thanks!

Best,

Kev-

 

[K-dub]

Very nice song Kev. Reminds me of something, cant think what. Styx I think.




In time or not, its quite distracting.



Agreed, they are also too up front for my tastes. The sound quality overall is excellent. Well done.

There's NO WAY that this is Styx ... who I do admire ... but it's totally NOT their style. Styx is completely a different sound -- nowhere near as acoustic. I appreciate the intent ... but really? Not this one, I think. You know I'm not criticizing ... just questioning the association.

And yes ... I'll fix that stupid cymbal ... I'm just as anal as the next guy.

The vox are subject to change -- this is early for me ... still much in production ...

Thanks DK!!!

Valued,

Kev-

 

[DavidK]

There's NO WAY that this is Styx ... who I do admire ... but it's totally NOT their style. Styx is completely a different sound -- nowhere near as acoustic. I appreciate the intent ... but really? Not this one, I think. You know I'm not criticizing ... just questioning the association.

I've played with them many times. Trust me.

 

[CIRO]

Not sure what's with the acoustic in the intro. Doing some stereo EQ? It sound noticably duller on the left side than the right. It gives the perception of an unbalanced mix...
...Lead Vox could come down a couple db's at least.

+1

Originally Posted by DavidK
Very nice song Kev. Reminds me of something, cant think what. Styx I think.

Originally Posted by K-dub
There's NO WAY that this is Styx ... who I do admire ... but it's totally NOT their style. Styx is completely a different sound

It happens all the time

Some of my compositions (not these below)people compared with Spyro Gyra, which definitelly Is not an influence for me...

Ciro
www.soundclick.com/ciromoreau

 

[DavidK]

+1





It happens all the time

Some of my compositions (not these below)people compared with Spyro Gyra, which definitelly Is not an influence for me...

Right. The sound of a particular group is largely the lead singer. No, Kev doesnt sound like Dennis DeYoung. The structure is the key.

 

[CIRO]

Right. The sound of a particular group is largely the lead singer.

Part of my "Spyro Gyra" and "Kenny G" "influences" (which I never had )people talk about :the "lead" Saxophone on some theme exposure ...

Ciro
www.soundclick.com/ciromoreau

 

[WhiteStrat]

I really like this song. I like the beginning stylistically, but I'm not sure about the "sound." For example, the voice, even though it's has that cool delay, is very up front and present, but the drums and the acoustic have a "room" sound to them that the belies the bigness of the song as it develops.

This is a subjective issue, and about the only the thing I hear.

(BTW--I think I just heard the part that reminded someone of Styx. I don't have a timer on it, but it's and instrumental break near the middle. It's reminiscent of Styx just before they got huge--like Equinox or Crystal Ball)

Great job!

 

[RAMI]

Very cool tune. The only thing I find is the vocals a little loud. Besides that, everything sounds great!!!

 

[K-dub]

Right. The sound of a particular group is largely the lead singer. No, Kev doesnt sound like Dennis DeYoung. The structure is the key.

Ah ... NOW I get it.

Billy Joel voice does Styx song structure.



Kev-