File transfer PA 9 to Sonar 2XL

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Ok, I've made the move and now its time to install-uninstall and transfer all data from one to the other.

What is the best way to go about this?

Install Sonar 2XL and then do all the data transfer.
Then un-install PA 9
For that matter, what is the best way to save or transfer your projects in PA 9 for a seemless move to Sonar 2XL?
Bun files????

Help me out here, I know some of you guys will have done this before. So what works?

Setup:
OS: Win 2000 Pro
Pro Audio 9

Alan.
 
If you don't plan to use "per project" file system, you shouldn't have to transfer anything. Sonar will open PA9 files. Just setup your default directories in Sonar to point to the same ones you use for PA9.

If you do plan to use "per project" files, then it may be best to save your projects as bundle files. Then open the bun's in Sonar and it will write to audio as you instruct.

In both cases, when you resave the files Sonar will give them new extenstions (.cwp for .wrk files, and .cwb for .bun files). You will not be able to open these files with PA9.

Therefore, if you want to super-extra safe. Save your PA9 files as bun files on a CD. Although, I don't expect you will have any problems. Famous last words. :D
 
Upgrading Isn't Degrading...

Hi Alan,

How's sunny Dubai? As sunny and hot as Perth this time of year? :)

I recently installed HS2002 as an 'upgrade' from my wheezing CW PA7. What I did was to install HS2002 then drag my PA7 project directory into HS2002. I NEVER allow any install to default to C:/Program Files/Obscure Directory/Keep Going/Getting Warmer/Here We Are/, I always lob into a directory below C: that I can find easily with Windows Explorer.

So far I've had no probs opening anything in HS2002

--
BluesMeister
 
Dear Alan...
I don't think necessary to hurry transfer all data to SONAR. Leave 'em (the .bun's) alone. Open them only when you need to open the project, and save it to cwb later after you work on them, THEN you can delete the .bun. SONAR still read previous Cakewalk saved file format. So even though you open .bun next year, it will. However, if you save your project as .wrk, I guess you need to transfer the data imediately. .wrk format didn't save the audio print bundled with it. They just save the "trigger" data NOT the audio data. The audio files associated are usualy put on your Cake's audio folder. If you don't transfer 'em to .cwb, there's a chance you're gonna loose 'em by accident. .bun (and .cwb) is very recomended format to save your audio contained projects. And for sure, keep your CWPA audio folder for SONAR... You'll want to uninstall CWPA 9 after installing SONAR, so you can transfer default setting & prefferenced things from CWPA 9 to SONAR without reconfiguring SONAR...
I'm sure there's more Cakey geek here are itchy to get you their comment... Your turn fellas...

;)
James
 
Re: Upgrading Isn't Degrading...

BluesMeister said:

(snip)
I NEVER allow any install to default to C:/Program Files/Obscure Directory/Keep Going/Getting Warmer/Here We Are/.....
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Big Grin here.
 
I bumped from PA8 to u571 on a new machine, so there was nothing to uninstall. I put all the files on a b/u drive and stuck it in the new one, and was already doing my own 'project' and song folders in 8, so that part still looks the same....

Ok, so I'm no help at all.
:rolleyes:
 
Thank you.

So I leave PA 9 "as is" for now and install Sonar on the same drive? (no conflicts?)
Then work in Sonar and import-move stuff over as and when needed.
Once you reach the point where your happy that there's nothing left in PA 9 worth worrying about, you bin it?

Whilst we are on the subject do you have any suggestions for settings in Win 2000 for max stability and performance.

Setup:
OS: Win 2000
Athlon 1gig
768 Mb Ram
80 gig HD (I have a 40 as well, but thats the office, dual boot)
Audigy Platinum
 
Re: Thank you.

Alan McGuinness said:
So I leave PA 9 "as is" for now and install Sonar on the same drive? (no conflicts?)
Then work in Sonar and import-move stuff over as and when needed.
Once you reach the point where your happy that there's nothing left in PA 9 worth worrying about, you bin it?
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Yeah. In fact, I believe that's what Cakewalk recommends. Sonar will install in it's own directory and won't interfere with PA9.

That's pretty much what I did when I got Sonar 1. And I don't recall that I ever opened PA9 again. Seriously.
 
Holy Shit!

Ok, just done the install and played around a bit.
This is WAAAAY different than PA 9.

Oh shit, here comes another learning curve.
First impression of the audio editor, left me a bit puzzled.
Double click a wav file opens audio editor (as norm)
Now you want to top and tail it (split) but cant select the wav to do so. I know this is just me doing something wrong, but cant figure what.

Alan.
 
Editing audio is done directly in the Track View... just zoom in! :)
 
Bzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong.

The Audio View has been removed from Sonar. You edit the audio directly in Track View. I hated it at first, as I did 80% of my work in the Audio View. However, once you get used to it, there is a lot of benefit to doing everything from just the Track View.

You can resize the waveforms using the plus and minus keys at the lower right hand corner of the screen. (There are other ways too, which you will soon find out.)

Double clicking on the waveform now opens up the loop window for creating and working with acid type loops. This is a feature that didn't exist in PA9.
 
That was meant for Alan, moskus, not you. You slipped your post in while I was typing mine. (I've got learn to type faster. :D Or use less words.)
 
Ah ha,
That explains it!
Thank you guys, I feel pretty confident that this will be one of many post regarding 2XL.

Must say though, I do like the general layout and "feel" of the thing. Maybe thats a bit of "new toy syndrome" but it looks and feels pretty userfriendly (Which is the main reason I got on the Cakewalk trail way back in PA 5) Never did have the patience for Cubase.

Thanks again for your time.

Alan.
 
Alan McGuinness said:
Maybe thats a bit of "new toy syndrome"
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I've still affected by the "new toy"-syndrome, and I've been since I upgraded from PA9 to Sonar 1. But that's a good thing, right? ;)
 
Aint that the truth.

I tend to agree, having only done a brief tour of the product you do get the feeling that 12 months from now I'll still be discovering new boundries.

Now if I could only get the signal going in to sound good!

:D

Not long to wait now before another family member makes the trip and brings me some more of my gear from back in the UK.
This time it will be the Rode NT1 and small mixing desk (spirit folio notepad) Do I miss that mic!!!!

Alan.
 
...tell your family also to bring some new soundcard, Alan. Say Delta or Audiophile... anything better than your current Audigy. Believe me, it's gonna be your next issue...
;)
 
I hear ya buddy, I truly do. Its been on the wish list forever.

What would be your recomendation allowing for the fact that I work as a "one man" deal and dont really need 10 ins and 10 outs.
But yet still want the quality.

Alan.
 
One of these card will do just fine...

Audiotrak Inca 88 a bit more expensive but worth the price... Ask moskus for detail...
Delta 66/1010 Generaly used great... or
Audiophile 24/96, another great affordable card.

My pesonal suggestion based on my experience was combining both Creative's SB Live! and Delta 66. I use the SB to do MIDI & soundfont thingie (...as you do too, right Alan ? ;)) and the Delta for audio stuff. Work great for "one man band" musician like us... :) I'm sure many folks here will share their prespective.

James
 
Well, you can't get the Inca88 anymore (directly from Auditrak, anyway) as Audiotrak/EgoSys is planning something new... damn it! Hate spending $$$ and then 6 months later it (whatever it is) goes out of production...


I'll bet the new card will be even better, though... :D
 
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