EZDrummer for Live Use

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Hi everyone, first of all, sorry for my English, I'm French.

Well, I bought the RC-300 six months ago, and I'm completely and totally satisfied with it.
I want to use it for playing live all by myself. So I have been restructuring and adapting all my songs for the machine ; my will is to entirely rebuild the songs on stage; I just record the parameters for each song but whenever I use a memory, I erase it and start from scratch (the past five years, I spent too many hours just recording songs, now I desperately need something more spontaneous, living and lively :guitar:).
Here is my configuration:
All my instruments (guitar, bass, keyboard and electronic drums, plus a microphone for recording external instruments such as mandolin or accordion) except the lead microphone are plugged into a little 4-tracks mixing table, which is plugged itself into the loop.
I make go out the loop on a peavey guitar amp whose send effect output (yes, I know, I’m losing the stereo but anyway, this is the only way I found to have a great guitar sound ; and from the moment you begin to have two different outputs (the main stereo and the sub) each track being assigned to one or the other, it begins to become very hard to deal with, whenever you want to play live ; it finally limits the possibilities unless all the songs were created with the loop station but it’s not my case ; actually, in my case, I’d have much more comfort by combining two rc-300, which would give me six separate tracks but the machine is pretty expensive ) ; so , I was saying that I link the send effect output of my guitar amp to a track of my main 16-tracks mixing table ; the same mixing table on which is plugged my lead microphone ;
a project of cubase is open, so I record my live projects (which are just rehearsals for doing live sessions later) through two tracks : one for the loop, and one for the lead vocal ; now and then, I plug the main output of the loop on two tracks available on the mixing table but for the moment, my will is to set up the most simple configuration, so I usually just record (I repeat, this is just a rehearsal, this is not a session of home recording, I just want to set up the existing songs by relation to the possibilities of the loop and this is far from being an easy task, but whatever ) with two tracks : one for the loop, another for the lead vocal.
Now you know me a well better, let me ask you my question.
For the moment, I directly plug my electronic drum into my little mixing table ; it’s more simple but, consequently, I cannot take advantage from the program Toontrack that is on my computer ; I have to deal with the quite artificial songs of the electronic drums.
So here is my question :
My knowledge of midi being very limited, I would like to know if you think that I can keep on recording live my drums but through the midi (so it would give that : the rc 300 records a midi file, coming from the electronic drums and sends it to the computer so that this latter uses toontracks to give it a more convincing sound of drums).
D’you think it’s possible or am I just dreaming?
Thanks in advance for your answers. Sorry if I didn’t post in the correct location, this is the only place in the forum where I saw a reference to the rc-300.
Thanks,

Thib
 
Hi and welcome to the site.

Not sure about your questions, hopefully someone will come along who can help. Your post shouldn't have been in someone else's thread, so I started a new one for you and moved it here.
 
Ok, thanks and sorry for having put my post in someone else's thread. I'm not very familiar with the forums and the way they work.

D'you mean you didn't understand the question or you just don't have the answer ?

Thanks

In case, I just repeat the question, trying to simplify it.
Can I use my electronic drums, ez drummer and the loop station altogether ?
I play the loop of drums, rc-300 records it as a midi file and assigns it a sound from ezdrummer (which is of course available in my cubase).
Perhaps, a best title would have been "EZ drummer for live use with the loop station rc-300". Thanks a lot. :)

Thib
 
Hi everyone, first of all, sorry for my English, I'm French.

Well, I bought the RC-300 six months ago, and I'm completely and totally satisfied with it.
I want to use it for playing live all by myself. So I have been restructuring and adapting all my songs for the machine ; my will is to entirely rebuild the songs on stage; I just record the parameters for each song but whenever I use a memory, I erase it and start from scratch (the past five years, I spent too many hours just recording songs, now I desperately need something more spontaneous, living and lively :guitar:).
Here is my configuration:
All my instruments (guitar, bass, keyboard and electronic drums, plus a microphone for recording external instruments such as mandolin or accordion) except the lead microphone are plugged into a little 4-tracks mixing table, which is plugged itself into the loop.
I make go out the loop on a peavey guitar amp whose send effect output (yes, I know, I’m losing the stereo but anyway, this is the only way I found to have a great guitar sound ; and from the moment you begin to have two different outputs (the main stereo and the sub) each track being assigned to one or the other, it begins to become very hard to deal with, whenever you want to play live ; it finally limits the possibilities unless all the songs were created with the loop station but it’s not my case ; actually, in my case, I’d have much more comfort by combining two rc-300, which would give me six separate tracks but the machine is pretty expensive ) ; so , I was saying that I link the send effect output of my guitar amp to a track of my main 16-tracks mixing table ; the same mixing table on which is plugged my lead microphone ;
a project of cubase is open, so I record my live projects (which are just rehearsals for doing live sessions later) through two tracks : one for the loop, and one for the lead vocal ; now and then, I plug the main output of the loop on two tracks available on the mixing table but for the moment, my will is to set up the most simple configuration, so I usually just record (I repeat, this is just a rehearsal, this is not a session of home recording, I just want to set up the existing songs by relation to the possibilities of the loop and this is far from being an easy task, but whatever ) with two tracks : one for the loop, another for the lead vocal.
Now you know me a well better, let me ask you my question.
For the moment, I directly plug my electronic drum into my little mixing table ; it’s more simple but, consequently, I cannot take advantage from the program Toontrack that is on my computer ; I have to deal with the quite artificial songs of the electronic drums.
So here is my question :
My knowledge of midi being very limited, I would like to know if you think that I can keep on recording live my drums but through the midi (so it would give that : the rc 300 records a midi file, coming from the electronic drums and sends it to the computer so that this latter uses toontracks to give it a more convincing sound of drums).
D’you think it’s possible or am I just dreaming?
Thanks in advance for your answers. Sorry if I didn’t post in the correct location, this is the only place in the forum where I saw a reference to the rc-300.
Thanks,

Thib



You just blew my freaking mind.







Not sure if this is answering your question, but, when I rehearsed with my drummer he used a Roland electronic drum kit via midi that triggered EZdrummer and the monitors played EZdrummer samples out through the PA - there was low enough latency that we were able to play live with ezdrummer...
 
Hi, thanks for the information, even though I already knew that 'cause this is how I record my parts of drums. But anyway, this may help someone else in the forum searching to know if ezdrummer was worth it regarding the risk of latency.

Actually I think that people who could be able to answer to my question are above all owners of the boss-rc300 ; I read everywhere that there were some troubles with this loop station regarding midi ; and because I have trouble understanding how the midi works, before getting my hands dirty and trying to modify some midi parameters in the loop, I would like to know if what I plan to do is just conceivable.
But I might be at the wrong place here. Having another look on the internet, I just discovered there actually is a forum dedicated to users of Roland products. I think I will post my question over there. Anyway, thanks for your help :thumbs up:. Bye

Thib
 
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