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Wow........why the disdain / hate for us Americans?


Kinda weird....funny thing is people from all over the world will give their eye teeth to move here..We're far from perfect but absolutely the best game going on....and with regard to beer...like everything in America we have more choices and the best of the best in the world at the most affordable prices....

There are plenty of other nice places to live but after traveling all over this little blue marble..with all the stupidity, taxes, health care issues and political horse shit the good ol USA still has it going on

The way I see it... ;)

 
Wow........why the distain / hate for us Americans?

I don't hate Americans...

I just don't understand how a lot of them can be so naive and not stand up in protest. I mean, if someone pulled one like the senate stuff in China, fi they would be jailed for decades.

Anyhow, it's good comedy. :D
 
I don't hate Americans...

I just don't understand how a lot of them can be so naive and not stand up in protest.

Many Americans don't understand how in some other countries people can't even protest if they wanted to...and then in other counties they protest everything at the drop of a hat...because protesting is the cool thing to do.

Interesting that you appear to see the China model as a better alternative...being jailed for decades.

Well....I guess that's why American democracy just works.
 
Speaking of "jailing people"? Is it not the case that America locks up a greater proportion of its population than almost any other? Even "non-free" countries (and UK is not far behind) The other scandal is that of that jailed section, "non-whites" make up a disproportionate number.

I don't "hate" America but with mine and my wife's health issues I certainly could not live there. We would die!

Dave.
 
Speaking of "jailing people"? Is it not the case that America locks up a greater proportion of its population than almost any other? Even "non-free" countries (and UK is not far behind) The other scandal is that of that jailed section, "non-whites" make up a disproportionate number.

I don't "hate" America but with mine and my wife's health issues I certainly could not live there. We would die!

Dave.

WTF are you talking about...??? :confused:
People who commit crimes get "locked up". Isn't that how it is in the UK?

AFA health issues...you can die just as easily in the UK as anywhere else AFIK. Is there some kind of magic potion there that prevents that?

I swear...I think some people must read nothing but conspiracy theory propaganda about the USA...and about computer security and hard drives! :p
 
WTF are you talking about...??? :confused:
People who commit crimes get "locked up". Isn't that how it is in the UK?

AFA health issues...you can die just as easily in the UK as anywhere else AFIK. Is there some kind of magic potion there that prevents that?

I swear...I think some people must read nothing but conspiracy theory propaganda about the USA...and about computer security and hard drives! :p

Yes, of course criminals are jailed here but too many people it is felt are incarcerated for relatively minor offences and many are really mentally ill. My son in law, now 50 is in a home for a slow, progressive mental disorder that in its early stages manifests itself as the person being very aggressive and uncooperative. His wife is a very articulate "professional" lady but even she had to fight tooth and claw to get him helped and we, the rest of the family are dead bang sure that WITHOUT his wife's persistence he would now be in prison.

The situation in the US is, as reported here, that there is a larger proportion of the population in prison than almost any other country. So, either you are as a nation, "badder buggers" than the rest of the world or, and I am sure this is the case, it "suits" the economy to have many people sewing mail bags!

Over here "we" see a society that praises individual "go getters" There is very little sympathy for "losers", you must make your way aggressively in the world? Not surprising then (to us) that people do bad things?

As far as health is concerned I am probably on shakier ground. I have 4 ongoing, serious issues but medication, treatment and regular checkups keep me going. I am on 5 "prescriptions a month. Were I not a pensioner they would cost me £40 a month and that is heavily subsidized.

My wife's condition is much worse. She is on 9 prescriptions plus other stuff she needs following an operation that she would not like me to detail. Just one of her heart medicines is known to be very expensive. All this costs us nothing (tho' of course we have both paid taxes for 50 yrs and still pay VAT)

How would we fair in the States? I might have the wrong idea?

Dave.
 
Wiki gives me USA as tops for incarceration at 655 adults per 100,000 of the population. Next is El Salvador at 610. China only 118 (but they probably shoot a lot!)

Russia is pretty bad at 411 but then that excludes those in government!

Dave.
 
Let’s just agree that if you have never lived here in the US that your opinions of it could be less than 100% accurate. I have traveled extensively throughout Europe over many years and would not care to live anywhere there.........but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeable enough to criticize those who do and why they would not want to move to the US.
 
Let’s just agree that if you have never lived here in the US that your opinions of it could be less than 100% accurate. I have traveled extensively throughout Europe over many years and would not care to live anywhere there.........but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeable enough to criticize those who do and why they would not want to move to the US.

Is it the weather? The food? The BEER!?

Dave.
 
The incarceration statistic sure is disturbing with the U.S. being #1 ( 2.1 million) and China #2 ( 1.6 million) ...China has 4 times as many people...man we like to incarcerate. :eek:

As previously stated The U.S. is far from perfect but from my extensive world traveler experience I don't see myself leaving for greener pastures..Two rules for living happily ever after in America...Don't get sick and don't do stupid ass shit that will get you tossed in the can.

This thread has gone off topic and taken a turn down the old Cave road and by old I mean like in the beginning when we could have controversial discussions without people getting really rude or hurtful..Good job knuckleheads!:guitar:


Yo Dave eec83 sorry about you n your wife's medical crap...that sucks... At soon to be 65, knock on wood, I take zero meds and only go to the Doctor if I lop off a limb or something ( Hate when that happens) The wife on the other hand she's got some hip n knee issues that have cost a crap load of $ over the years...two major hip surgeries....PRP on the knees ...looking at stem cell injections ..can you say bend over and shit out the $$$$$...( not covered by insurance) a boatload of Dr. visits..We do have insurance and this is my Medicare birthday coming up so I start to enjoy a tiny bit of health insurance subsidies...But I need the help with the wife not me! Dang!

Back to incarceration...I suspect with the advent of California eliminating bail on misdemeanors / non violent crimes we will see a huge drop in the ratio....As a California right wing nut...I was at first glance pissed off at ol Jerry Brown but after review I have to say damn that was a good idea...Really sad how many people are sitting in the can waiting for trial on piddly ass crimes because they can't come up with bail...Not so innocent until proven guilty..Watched a documentary on it last week and it made me sick...single Mom's who screw up for dumb shit like a traffic ticket warrant sitting in the can for weeks / months cause they can't come up with $500 bail..Kids go to relatives or into "THE SYSTEM" :eek: Mom loses her minimum wage job...bad shit for a dumb ass system...So now in Cali you're out in 12 hours or less..

It's just been implemented so we are the guinea pig / poster child on this concept...Hope it goes more right than wrong and that the rest of the states can follow...I would guess it would cut that current stat by 50% or more...that's just an out of my ass guess...but it appears this not being able to bail out is a big problem nationwide...get rid of bail on misdemeanors / non violent crimes and we kill the bail bondman business and keep families together all in one fell swoop...

LOL one fell swoop
 
Yes TAE the thread HAS gone off piste by a fair margin but to me, that is ok so long as everyone remains polite.

I guess I would be classed as "left wing" by your lights but one fact about me might surprise your (and sorry, but even further OT!) Gun Control. I do understand why so many of you want to keep those rights. You just don't trust governments.

There have a been very few "mass shootings" here in UK but one of the worst Hungerford was committed by a nutter who should never have had access to the weapons and the lack of a trained, armed police force allowed him to continue. The was a case in France a few years ago and a gendarme borrowed a hunting rifle from a citizen and took the bastard out.

Plenty of citizens in EU hold guns and there is still the memory of the last war when the FIRST thing an occupying force does is disarm the populace. Our Home Office data base would make that very easy.

Dave.
 
I do own a small 38 caliber pistol. To be honest........we got it for home protection.....and not so much for government intrusion.........although who knows what it might become handy for in the future. We haven't had a need to use it ever.......and hopefully it will stay that way.

Previously mentioned........I do agree that our country does need to change it's culture and laws with respect to mental illness. MANY of those incarcerated fall into that category unfortunately. As you may know.......my wife is a psychologist and one of her best friends works for the Palm Beach County Sheriffs department as a mental health adviser for arrest subjects. As she tells it........law enforcement has only recently begun to train officers how to recognize and handle mental health issues. The courts are slowly catching up as well........but we have a long way to go.
 
Howsabout them hard drives? :laughings:

To steer further away from topic.....

Something I have seen everywhere I go is homeless and beggars...In China there are gangs that run a beggars cartel like a prostitution ring...They'll lop off some guys feet so he can beg better / get mo money :eek:

Crazy shit..

I digress...

Currently here in Cali it has become epidemic ....seems we ( Me and the mouse in my pocket ) need to do something about it...

There are multiple reason why someone becomes "homeless"

Bad luck
Some people like being a "hobo"
Some are not mentally capable of figuring out how to get a roof over their head and keeping it there
Addiction / substance abuse...

The biggest victims and who should be at the forefront of the "lets fix this" food chain are the mentally ill , problem is they have rights which by default deny law enforcement or other government agencies to intervene easily in "helping them"...

Sure is a nasty mess and I see it wherever I go...strays without a home
 
Many Americans don't understand how in some other countries people can't even protest if they wanted to...and then in other counties they protest everything at the drop of a hat...because protesting is the cool thing to do.

Interesting that you appear to see the China model as a better alternative...being jailed for decades.

Well....I guess that's why American democracy just works.

I didn't say China was any better. Just that in the Western world, companies can get away with a lot of stuff because the company might get a hefty fine and go broke. No skin of the CEO's back. Look at VW, for instance. If a company pulls that kind of stunt in China, heads will roll, literally.

I don't want to promote the death penalty, but I think some corporate crimes should see their actors put in jail.

As for the USA, as a country, I think there are a few unique problems that don't seem to hit the rest of the civilised world.

Your love of guns is one of them.

But there are a few others, like very bad health insurance, pensions and very expensive education. These seem to stem from a fear of the word "socialism", due to decades of indoctrination.

And then there are very serious ecological health problems, like lead in drinking water in over 4.000 places. The latest FDA report listed 2.000 schools. If you experience even a small dose of lead in your food over a lengthy period, you get to suffer from anemia, leading to a reduced level of intelligence, or you turn insanely violent. I only learned about this when Flint came into the spotlight, and have been reading about ever since. And every report I get to read seems to indicate it is even worse than previously figured.

There is a definite link between lead poisoning and violent crime. All over the world, violent crime has declined sharply since 1975 or so. That's also the period most countries started banning lead in car fuel. The effect is somewhat less in the USA, which made little sense to me, until I heard about Flint.

Combine a lot of people with slow lead poisoning with the love of guns and you get a high number of mass shootings and a high rate of incarceration.

There's one city left over here where our govt hasn't tackled the lead pipes problem yet. So we get a hefty EU fine for it every year. And that city has a history of violence. It's also a city where IS had a lot of activity, despite it being a relatively small town.

Another stat that made me wonder is that worldwide, even in countries like Myanmar or North Korea, the number of mothers dying while giving birth, is declining. Of course, in Western countries, it's already low, so it's slowly declining. In the USA, the number is going up. Not sharply up, but still. I can't seem to figure out a good reason.

And it's not as if security is perfect in other countries. The head of our local "CIA", succeeded in posting his name, function, home address, cell phone and landline number on a public forum, a while ago. When it dawned on him that it was on the net, he threatened the company that ran the forum to remove his data. Completely forgetting the company was the supplier of one of the security software solutions his agency was using. So, we're not free of that level of stupidity. It only happens a lot less. And those who exhibit that level of stupidity, usually get removed from office. In this case, the guy was promoted away to a purely decorative function. I hear he suffers from a severe depression these days.
 
Combine a lot of people with slow lead poisoning with the love of guns and you get a high number of mass shootings and a high rate of incarceration.

Not that their couldn't be a correlation but that is a pretty broad stretch

I was exposed to lead a lot more than most of my peers when I was kid...man I loved eating paint :eek: (just kidding) but my Pops was a hardwood floorman and I was by his side most of my childhood during summer breaks and holidays...we cleaned the lambskin applicator and brushes with good old leaded gasoline and my bare hands...many times..it'd kind of make my skin tingle...Hell he didn't know any better...He also chain smoked as we'd drive down the road with the windows up :eek: well I was definitely a little more aggressive than many of my peers and coincidentally I mellowed out in my early teens when the flooring business went to hell and he started a new career...

Maybe there's a correlation....Of course I started smoking pot at 16 and I'm sure that helped...mellow me out :cool:
 
The incarceration statistic sure is disturbing with the U.S. being #1 ( 2.1 million) and China #2 ( 1.6 million) ...China has 4 times as many people...man we like to incarcerate. :eek:[/URL]

I reckon the war on drugs has a lot to do with that.

Up until the 1900's, nobody cared much about drugs. The pope had his "Vino Mariani" with cocaine and Coke also contained cocaine. One of the founding fathers grew weed, IIRC.

I don't know why or when that changed, but a large percentage of the prison population is in there for behaviour that wasn't criminal at all, until the war on drugs started. Ever see one of these "Reefer madness" posters from the thirties?
 
Not that their couldn't be a correlation but that is a pretty broad stretch

There was a recent publication about it, again. It's slowly being accepted by science.

Lead is strange. The MD who discovered that lead was poisonous, in the early 20th century, was discredited by his peers. He ended up in an insane asylum. 25 years later, it was rediscovered that lead was poisonous. And a few months ago, the above mentioned publication showed that it is even worse than we knew. There isn't a safe dose if you get exposed for a long time. That's because lead never gets excreted. Most people with lead poisoning get anemic, pale and die young. A smaller group goes batshit insane and most of these slowly turn violent.

The first plant that put lead into fuel, had 16 of it's 42 workers turn violently insane. They found some MD's to testify in court that it had nothing to do with lead poisoning. That company and it's competitors could poison the world for almost 40 years.

The strange thing is that there is no lobbying going on for lead, AFAIK. Otherwise, you could suppose some conspiracy. It's just that it was a convenient solution to "engine knocking" that plagued engine manufacturers and oil companies.

I was exposed to lead a lot more than most of my peers when I was kid...man I loved eating paint :eek: (just kidding) but my Pops was a hardwood floorman and I was by his side most of my childhood during summer breaks and holidays...we cleaned the lambskin applicator and brushes with good old leaded gasoline and my bare hands...many times..it'd kind of make my skin tingle...Hell he didn't know any better...He also chain smoked as we'd drive down the road with the windows up :eek: well I was definitely a little more aggressive than many of my peers and coincidentally I mellowed out in my early teens when the flooring business went to hell and he started a new career...

There's more harm in respiring lead from exhaust fumes. It does transverse the skin, but that was more of a problem for those working with lead fonts in printshops. Desktop publishing and laser printers solved that.

Maybe there's a correlation....Of course I started smoking pot at 16 and I'm sure that helped...mellow me out :cool:

Weed fixes a lot of things :D

And smoking it prevents you from suffering the same faith as a small number of medicinal cannabis users who made weed tea. Smoking burns fungi and bacteria that can be naturally present in weed. Only harmful to babies, the elderly and people with a weakened immune system, like those being treated for cancer...
 
As for the USA, as a country, I think there are a few unique problems that don't seem to hit the rest of the civilised world.

Your love of guns is one of them.

But there are a few others, like very bad health insurance, pensions and very expensive education. These seem to stem from a fear of the word "socialism", due to decades of indoctrination.


You guys really eat up the negative propaganda over there...don't you. :p

Health insurance is actually quite good (and that had nothing to do with Obamacare).
For years now, all I've ever paid, for just about everything from doctor visits, to MRI and other types of screenings and tests, to even some surgical procedures...is $40 copay per incident. Actually it use to be only $25 about 20 years ago...so a whopping $15 increase in 20 years.
Expensive education exists for those who can afford it...but there are plenty of free public schools, and state/county colleges that are pretty affordable.


AFA "love of guns"...:facepalm: ...you must think people here have some kind of fanatical relationships with guns...that we hold them and gaze at them like they were puppies or something. Heck...can't remember the last time I took out any of mine. They're just there.
Nope...only the occasional loon is obsessed with guns, but most people who legally own guns are pretty levelheaded and responsible.
Of course...it's really about the right to own them....something you don't have in many other countries, so only the military and police have them...and of course, the criminals....so you can go with that plan.
Better to have guns and not need them...than need them, and not have them.
If you think true "socialism" is the best way to live...move to a true socialist country and let me know how things are for you when everything is 100% government regulated and provided...without too many individual rights available to you. Move to China...you seem to approve of their legal and penal system.

Like I said...the USA is one of (if not the) biggest emigration destinations for people all over the world.
There's a reason for that. ;)
 
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