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Hey everyone.

It looks like the board is workig enough for me to put up a post..we'll see!

I just re-recorded an old song of mine, "She Looks To Heaven". I was very unhappy with our results in the real studio, so I am taking a shot at home to get the sound I want on it. Hopefully I will be able to one up the good stuff:). Anyhoo, I have been experimenting with some things today, especially the drums. Please tell me your thoughts on the drums here.

This song was just recorded, and has lots of work left to do. My voice was just a one take filler. Mary, my partner, will be the vocalist on it, as she is the singer and I'm not. It's rough, no reverb on it and no compression on anything, except for a little Waves L1 n the overall mix so it was loud enough. And there are guitar and bass parts that need fixing, but I was looking on some drum feedback mostly, cause I did something really funny to it.

Thanks!!:)
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H2H
 
nice songwriting.

i like the guitars a lot. but you were asking about the drums. well this has become the 'i don't like the drum sounds' bbs so you're in the right place.....

don't like the snare and bass drum. don't know why. i just don't like them. crash cymbals sound pretty good though. the open hihat on all the snare hits in the beginning sounds a little not right performance wise. kind of like a beat box sound. in the second verse it sounds more natural opening up on the eigth notes in between.

so how are you doing the drums and why is it so funny?

crash cymbals sound real good on the second listen.
 
Ditto on the completely perfect guitar sounds. That is just SWEEEEEEET. Not too much distortion...you've got a kind of a "Fastball" guit sound going, and I love that.

DRUMS - Man, ask around...I know not of drums. I'm going to give you my honest impression, which is probably 180 degrees off of "correct." The snare sounds too thin for this tune. Sounds like a picallo or something...I'd just like more meat. I'll say this, I listen to almost all tunes with a flat EQ, then with a more realistic EQ setting...("V" baby).

On the smiley face EQ, the snare sounds better...so maybe if you're gonna' stick with that snare...do a mid cut and boost the overall volume???? (Dude, I'm warning you again...HIGHLY suspect advice).

The kick...I'm thinking it has too many low low low lows. Kinda' killing some of the definition of it.

*did you see the warning?*

And I don't care if you weren't looking for any other advice...the song kicks ass, and it should be cut by a 12 year-old girl from Texas. :D

Later,
Chris
 
erichenryus-
Since you bothered to listen, I'll tell you;)

The drums are just sequenced midi run through my JV-1010. As usual, I split the midi so that I had 4 midi tracks kick / snare / hihat / cymbals. I then mixed them and printed the audio I liked. I then soloed these 4 (now stereo audio) tracks and mixed them until I liked it. I ran them through my monitors and cranked them way up and used a C-1 through an Art TubePac to record my monitors (and didn't monitor the input I was recording = no feedback). I cranked the gain on the tube pac to make it sound as warm as it could. The drums on this are the recording with a single mic in my room of the MIDI drums I had tracked. I just had to re-align the single track to compensate for the latency of the soundcard, and blam!

They are completely flat, too. No EQ anywhere. I will be blending original drum tracks once I EQ them up right and then mix in the "room mic" that I created.

Oh well!:) At least I had fun doing it, and was suprised it sounded as good as it did. All this work gets overridden in the studio by a $5000 drumkit and about 14 mics on it, so I like to play around and see what I can do at home from time to time.


Oh, FYI...The guitars are a PRS and a Strat both thru a Fender Prosonic in class A mode and miced with a C-1 thru the TubePac and a Symetrix528, depending on the track. There are 5 tracks of guitar. There is lots of work yet to be done on the guitar tracks, though. I will post a finished version when it's done, too.

C-Ya
H2H
 
chris-
you caught me mid-post. You'll probably realize what was happening when you read my post.

Actually, I'd love to hear jaimee doing this song, just for fun. Lemme know if you guys are game, and maybe we can do it.:)

H2H
 
you know, i've often thought of doing that. now i'm gonna go try that on my next tune....which will hit this site in about two months at my current rate. glad to hear i'm not the only one who thought of doing that.
 
Fun Fun Fun

"For Fun" is the only reason we record at all, eh? Okay, so now the drums are funnier. They actually sound pretty damned good then.

I'll PM you.
 
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