Event 20/20bas

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I saw an ad for 20/20bas that were used as a demo model and have a ding in the cabinet, the guy said sonically they are perfect. $500
They supposedly come with the full Event warranty....I'm sure they were used hard, but that's what they're made for right? any advice on buying demoed monitors?

Thanks....

[Edited by skyway57 on 08-04-2000 at 10:39]
 
MY ADVICE...

******DON'T!!!********

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Why not!

Save a few bucks and get them. I have had mine for 3 1/2 years, with heavy use, and many dings in them now (from taking them with me to other studios that I work out of sometimes) and they still sound perfect!

The Events are bullet proof. I have not heard of one person blowing a driver on one yet! A testiment to the superior drivers in them that deliver the stunning sound they create.

Buy away. I doubt that you will ever use that warrenty anyway. But hey, you have it too....:)

Ed
 
at the last post house we worked at, we bought out a closing avid house - the 20/20 bas's we got in the acuision had a blown right tweeter - and though I never got a chance to listen to them myself, one of the editors said they sounded "weak" (but that was compaired to the mackie hr's that he was using)

just my 2 cents,

now you've heard of an event crumbling to abuse. :)

(they're still a good buy for the money though, no speaker is indestructible - self-powered or not).
 
WOW!!!

I have dealt in the sound reinforcement field long enough to know your point there patrickkeller2. I actually watch a soundman one time blow almost a dozen 18" subs while mixing the last song of a Charlie Daniels set at a festival.

But, I will make this point too. I have done some of the most abusive things to my Events you can do in the studio. I have had feedback loops from the decks to OP amps that have made the drivers do things I didn't think was possible for them to actually do! :) But, they keep on ticking.

On certain gear, used just makes more sense. Say on a power amp. If you were to get one for say half price, the most expensive thing you would need to replace would be the output transformers. That would cost you about $200-250 to replace both. The amp would be good to go for a long time after that, and you still would have not spent as much as you would have for a new amp. Compressors, or just about any outboard gear usually doesn't have too many problems (although, I am not impressed with the new plastic casings many are using on their units), and certainly, a used mic (with the exception of used SM-57's) are a much better way to go then new.

I am surprised that they were able to blow the tweeter in an Event. I really makes you wonder what they were doing to them.......

Ed
 
57's used?

I thought sm-57's were nearly indestructible - why wouldn't you want a used one (other than the fact that they usually sell used and battered for only a few bucks less than you can buy them in a discount catalogue)?
 
I wouldn't listen to a video editors opinion of a speaker - they're too busy watching pix to notice!!
 
actually. . . . .

actually, I've cut on avids b4, and ear fatigue and neutrality are just as much an issue with speakers when picture editing as with audio mixing (detail is not however, that's the sound guy's concern. . . . err. . my concern usually, as it would end up on my lap).

But frankly, you're right - I was amazed that this the editor in question was able to notice a difference at all. I was a bit taken back. The 20/20's in question may have had amplifier damage or been inproperly hooked up - they arrived after I had quit - he told me about them a month later when I picked up my last paycheck - so I never got to hear them myself.

I know better than to trash 20/20's on this list. :)
 
57 Used!!! Be careful

Used 57 have a funny way of crapping out on you once you actually put them in front of a high SPL source. I have had several that sounded fine when you talk through it, but once you throw it on a snare drum, or a guitar cabinet, you can actually hear it rattle, which totally messes up the low end response. So, when buying one used, just be prepared to find that it may not work for it's intended purpose. I HAVE bought some used 57's before (a few I still have) that did not have any problems, so, just be careful when you do buy one. As I always say about buying used mics, try to bring along one of the same model to compare too. If they sound really different, don't buy it.

Ed
 
thanks!

I've never encountered this rattle problem, but when I was knee deep in 57's, I was working as a tech at this concert/theater house - we had a giant drawer full of 57's older than I am - It was like a big pencil box - only with 57's and another drawer of 58's in various stages of screen indentation. They all performed great, but it was for live apps - so I guess we never listened too critically on drums - hell, we never had to do drums more than 6 or 7 times a year. I will definitely take your advice to heart - but considering you can get a new 57 for $79 dollars now - buying used doesn't seem like too smart an option. Did these rattling 57's look like they had seen some use, or is it a problem that seems to be independent of pysical abuse?

I appreciate the expertise greatly. thank you.
 
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