Event 20/20 bas: any problems with hum or excessive heat?

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Has anybody heard of, or had problems themselves, with amp hum or excessive heat with the 20/20 bas monoitors? I *ahem* tried to listen to some at Guitar Center (sadly, the only place in the state that stocks them), but they've got the damned radio blaring over their P.A. system IN A ROOM WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HEAR HOW PROFESSIONAL STUDIO EQUIPMENT SOUNDS, so I didn't notice a hum. But the cabinets did feel disconcertingly warm. Anyhow, I had read somewhere of these sorts of problems and was curious if anyone else had encountered them.
 
yes. I did post something to that effect a while back.

Fist, the Events are not shielded, so its almost impossible to use them near something like a computer monitor.
Second, they have an awfull build-in hummmmmmm, which would drive you nuts after a while.
Third, they do not have a heatsink. While the amp does not seem to suffer from this, the problem is in the internal design of the box. No heatsink, and the heat seaks the easiest way out. With the Events this seems to be the top part of the woofer cone. I only discovered this when I used them on a project and found the tembre of the music was changing.

I often get manufacturers' monitors to evaluate. The only cheap'ish nearfield that really impressed my over the last year is the JBL LSR 25P, which stand head and shoulders over anything else as far as accuracy and dispersion are concerned. And they are shielded.
 
Thanks for the Quick reply.

Wow... and so very many people on this forum have given them glowing reviews!

This is the first recommendation I've seen for the JBLs, good OR bad, though I haven't searched exaustively. Do other active monitors have similar hummm & heat problems? Specifically, I'm curious about the the Tannoy Reveal actives, the Event PS-6s, and the Yorkville YSM-1 actives (or are they even out yet?)
 
Well ... perhaps I derive my opinions from a slightly different perspective.
I do not judge anything by how much it costs. Recording is my job, I need the best tools make doing my job fast, accurate and effortless, as I think technology is a distand second to creativity.
If I see something cheap and like it, I will say so. If I see something expensive and don't like it, I will say so as well. One thing I won't do; say I like something because I can affort it, or because I have got it.

I tested a bunch of other nearfields last year both for my own and for 2 other studios (large facilities). Every time the LSR25's won as the best small nearfields.
With the event of DVD, a lot of post production facilities in the LA area have upgraded their facilities for surround mixing, and a very large number of them have installed LSR25 surround systems. That on its own should speak volumes, you will not find any of the other systems you mentioned there.
In the end, all you should do is listen, and buy what you like.
 
Radio Panic said:
Thanks for the Quick reply.

Wow... and so very many people on this forum have given them glowing reviews!

This is the first recommendation I've seen for the JBLs, good OR bad, though I haven't searched exaustively. Do other active monitors have similar hummm & heat problems? Specifically, I'm curious about the the Tannoy Reveal actives, the Event PS-6s, and the Yorkville YSM-1 actives (or are they even out yet?)
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I use the Event PS6s and I have noticed neither a cabinet hum nor excessive heat... but then again the PS series is lower-powered than the 20/20 series (100 watts less), so I wouldn't expect the same heat-related characteristics to occur.

Bruce
 
Sjoko2, did you include the Mackie monitors in that 'shootout'? I'm just curious because I've heard so many good things, what did you think of them ?

What about the LSR 28 as a midfield, is it as good as the 25?
 
its taken me an hour and a half to finally reply to this thread, i had aslew of computer problems preventing me from it.. ok finally.

Usually i would trust sjoko2's judgeent on things, and i have never heard the JBLs. bu my 20/20bas have been on for 13 hours, and there is no heat coming out of the woofer.

If i stick my ear about 1 cm from the tweeter i can hear some noise... i think, or maybe that is the computer fan humming close to the monitor.

And unless event likes to blatantly exercise false advertisement, then the fact that their website says "all event monitors are magnetically sheilded for use in close proximites to computers" would probably mean that the 20/20bas are shielded. they are about 2 feet from my screen, no problem there.
 
mmmmm weird. The ones I've got here are definately not shielded. If you just have them on the heat is neglectable. If you use them however, feel the top part of the cone. It gets hot. The bottom part stays cold.
I have heard other people say they don't make noise, but every single pair I've seen / heard does make noise.

Vox, the last album I mixed before I started building the new studio was Pete Bardens & Mick Fleetwood, which I did totally on a pair of Mackies. They are pretty decent. A bit sensitive to placement, but they have some very good template settings for that. Also, you have to be somewhat carefull with the volume, as the sound changes in character a bit when you push them. Saying that, definately no more, or less than, most others in their price range.

The LSR28's and the Quested 3208 are, as far as I'm concerned, by far the best self powered monitors available today, and very much ahead of everything else at that. I've just this week installed my new monitors, five LSR28 and one LSR 12. One of the key things with these monitors is that they are totally accurate at all volumes, the mixes translate very well, and you can work on them all day without your ears getting tired.
 
Sjoko2, congrats on the new monitors. Don't you just love that 'new gear, christmas feeling'. :D
 
yup.......just don't like paying for it:( and there is a lot more to buy before the place is all ready......
 
i have the 20/20bas and they ARE sheilded and they do have a heat sink. the "heat sink" takes up about 50% of the back of the monitors. the problem is that the it is totally flat (no heat dissapating radiator like metal) and flush, and therefore gets hot as hell after about 45min or so. actually they get so hot i'm not even sure how much ridges (what the hell are they really called?) would even help.

sjoko2, maybe you were using the passive versions of the 20/20. these do not have heat sinks and are not magnetically sheilded.

in case you were wondering i do get a small hum from the 20/20bas. i tried upgrading my cables to no avail, but i'm still using an UNbalanced signal...i don't know if that would do anything for this hum.
 
jeffy, I know the 20/20's are shielded, but then there is shielded and shielded, one works, the other one also, sortoff.
The metal plate is............ a metal plate. It is NOT a heatsink. Heatsinks are made from alloy, designed to disperse heat, and normally have "fins". A metal plate will do the opposite, it stores heat nicely, that's why the heat will seek another means of escape - in this case through the top half of the woofer cone. Balance, unbalanced, mogami cables, cheap cables - the hum is build in.
 
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