Evans vs Remo

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Evans or Remo?

  • Evans

    Votes: 62 55.4%

  • Remo

    Votes: 40 35.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Total voters
    112
Chevy Van said:
So anyone who endorses a product is also a tool?

You're a tool.
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People who endorse products don't have a "preference" for the product...are you that naive? Endorsements are business arrangements.... The musician, artist, athlete, actor, whatever...gets free exposure and press in exchange for their name and likeness being associated with a given product. Just because a drummer "endorses" product X, doesn't mean that's all he uses. Do you have any idea how many endorsers of drum X have a set of drum A in their basements...how many drummers endorse cymbal Z while on tour, but play cymbal B in the studio? Come on guys...wake up. You're limiting your potential because of some ink.
 
I'm kinda new here, but so far Pharro you are a fuckin' idiot. If you wish to speak about cock size, there are plenty of other places to do that. I happen to prefer certain products. Based on your poll, I thought there was an interest in what people used, instead you are using it to flame and argue with innocent contributors.
 
JWR1 said:
I'm kinda new here, but so far Pharro you are a fuckin' idiot. If you wish to speak about cock size, there are plenty of other places to do that. I happen to prefer certain products. Based on your poll, I thought there was an interest in what people used, instead you are using it to flame and argue with innocent contributors.
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Based on my poll??? I didn't start this thread boy wonder. Again...take your meds. Are you too dim-witted to understand my point? Everyone prefers certain 'products'. But a 'product' has little to do with the brand put on said product...are you still struggling with this? Seems you are. You're like one of those little kids who's given two otherwise identical sandwiches wrapped in different paper...but chooses the one labeled "McDonald's" because you've been programmed to believe one 'brand' is superior to another. So yes...if you choose your products based on brand(you do understand what a brand is, right...) if you choose based on brand, then yes...you are a tool.

Brand loyalty...not the same as product preference...brand loyalty is for banjo-pickin', budweiser-drinkin', Velveeta-eatin', wife-beatin, Skynard-lovin', NASCAR-watchin', basement-gigin', web-toed rubes.
 
PYRRHO said:
To choose one brand over another based on perceived quality or more accurately...to limit ones options based on perceived quality...that's just silly.
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No ..... it would be silly not to buy based on what you perceive the quality to be.
I'm not a drummer and I don't have any opinion at all concerning the best heads.
But really, all any consumer of any product has to go by is perceived quality and value of that product.
everyone tries to get the best they can get.
Yes, it's certainly true that their perception can be wrong.
But all of us try to spend our money wisely and to ignore whether a product or company seems to offer quality is a silly way to toss your money around.

If you're saying that you think there isn't any difference in their quality then just say so. That would be a useful thing for these guys to know. But I have no doubt that you don't buy things that you perceive to be inferior quality and I don't quite get why you want to insult anyone who's simply trying to get the best for their money..
 
Lt. Bob said:
a silly way to toss your money around.

If you're saying that you think there isn't any difference in their quality then just say so.
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I did say so...in my second sentence. This seems to be what a few of these guys are not getting. There IS a difference in sound and performance from one model to the next, and that difference is significant enough for any drummer to choose one model over another...no kidding. I swear by FiberSkyns. Do I care if the logo says Remo, Evans, Aquarian, or Acme? Of course not! Some of these guys are saying "the Remo sound..." or "the Evans sound...". Rubbish!!! There is no "sound" inherent to a specific manufacturer...nor is one manufacturer producing heads of a higher "quality" than another. That's the problem with being loyal to one brand. It happens everyday with inexperienced drummers - "I'm a Remo guy...what's the Remo equivalent to Evans Hydraulics..." There is none. "I'm an Evans guy...what Evans head sounds like Remo Fiberskyn...?" No such Evans product.

This is what I mean by guys limiting their options.
 
Farview said:
Those sound really good when they are new, but they go to shit very quickly. (for the tom sounds that I tend to go for)
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Amen brother. I switched out from the X series Aquarians to Evans EC2 edge control toms....amazing tonal qualities, just enough resonance...they're amazing. With my Genera HD dry snare, G1 genera reso's, and my EMAD bass, I'm unstoppable!!!:D:D:D
 
PYRRHO said:
Anyone having a "preference" for one brand over another...is a tool.
Your three leading makers, all produce heads of similar quality, even with the coatings. Many years ago...long before most of you were old enough to hold a pair of sticks...Remo did have some problems with their coating. They made some changes to comply with new EPA regulations, and the resulting heads were inferior. This has loooooooong since been fixed, and the Remo coating is as if not more durable than anything out there. Anyone saying otherwise, simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

How many have seen that kid asking..."I like the sound of Evans Hydraulic...what Remo heads should I buy to get that sound?" Or..."what is the Evans Equivalent to Remo Fiberskyns?"

It's just silly boy and girls...silly. Don't fall victim to the marketing hype.

Choose heads based on your desired sound...not the logo.
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For someone who has no preference, you seem to be going out of your way to justify Remo's past inferiority. If you were unbiased, you would've stated the facts as they were, not pinned to some afterthought. I for one have used all three major brands, and even a few in between *shudder*

Remo's - Great heads while they last, coating sheers off very easily, tone degrades awfully over time, and they dent quite easily (and I play with more of a jazz style then HEAD BEATING ROCK)....

Aquarian - same thing only much quicker. Out of the box and tuned, they SING. after about 2-3weeks, they're lifeless lumps of poo...although I've never had dents in either the aquarians or evans heads. Kicks sound decent, but I prefer the EMAD skin.

Evans - I've had a constant on-off love affair with Evans. I bought hydraulic heads for my old fusion kit, and was SORELY disappointed. switched to X-series heads, then they went flat quick, so off I went to Evans again (after a brief stint in Remo territory). I also made the mistake of purchasing the EC2 snare head. It's garbage, although the batter EC2's for the toms are AMAZING.

MY personal experience is that you get fewer "duds" per unit then any other brand. I know people who SWEAR by remo, and power to 'em. It's all about preference baby!:D
 
i use evans. i got a power center rev dot on my snare, EMAD on the kick with EQ3 reso, and just got some EC1 coated batter with G1 clear reso on the toms. the jury is still out on the EC1's as i haven't been able to play much since i'm moving stuff to my new place all week. my snare does have a Remo snare-side head though, i think it's an Ambassador hazy which my cousin had left over.
 
Evans! they can take a beating like non other. the coated heads don't ware down as fast as many other brands and i've been pimpin one on my snare for almost 2 years with clears on the toms that have been on even longer-and somehow they still sound good for recording.
 
jrhager84 said:
If you were unbiased, you would've stated the facts as they were, not pinned to some afterthought. I for one have used all three major brands, and even a few in between *shudder*
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Afterthought? Stated the facts? Those ARE the facts. Remo DID have a problem... Those heads have been gone longer than most kids here have been playing. I too use Evans, Aquarian, and Remo. My set right now has Fiberskyns on tom/snare batter and bass reso. Then, I use Strata's on tom reso's with an Emad on the bass batter. Aquarians don't see too much action, but I have used Texture Coated and Super-2, with no complaints, and still have a Modern Vintage on one of my snares. My head choices have always been based on sound and availability...not brand.

One reason so many drummers bash Remo...is because they START with Remo. Let's face it...how many of us knew the first thing about tuning, or even playing, when we got our first new heads? Any 'stock' head that comes on an entry-level kit is going to be garbage, and most newbs under-tension their heads in an attempt to get the lowest sound possible. Any head tuned very low, is more prone to pitting and coating failure...regardless of brand. Do you understand how this works? Newds do all kinds of terrible things to otherwise good equipment...then develop a bad impression of the brand.
 
I am fairly new to drumming(self taught) and have found this thread pretty enlightening.


Just not about what heads to use and why.:D

I get sidetracked in the drama and lose my concentration of what I am reading this for. So am still confused as to the best quality heads and why.


What makes for a good head. What should a drummer be looking for, quality wise and why?:confused:
 
That's pretty subjective. I like a nice response, plenty of sustain, and a clean note.
It's the same as asking how to tune drums, it depends what sound you want at the end...

What music do you play? What drummers to you aim to emulate in terms of sound?
 
I have just been beating along with some of the songs on cable music channels. Right now I am experimenting with all of them. Not sure what I like or what I would be best in. I have omitted country and Metal. I can't do that kick bass wild ass thing in the Metal music.:eek:

I guess I should get a book or video on drumming.

I like rock a lot. I seem to be leaning in that direction, but I don't think I have what it takes to get too crazy with it.

I am not expecting to be a great drummer, but still want to satisfy urge to beat on something and make some kind of music with it.

No one in particular to emulate. Not now anyway. I do like BIG sounding drums. I think that is the right term?

Deep echoing toms and a prominent full bass kick sound. I like the snare sounding tight with a good strong pop. But can I do these things now. No.:D

Thank you Elton Bear for your reply to my question.:)
 
Well, here's another...

Go Remo!! It probably depends on your drums, but I have never had a bad experience with them - I'd suggest pinstripes on Toms, and Coated Ambassador on snare. Diplomats or Ambassadors on all resonant sides, although stock heads can work well, especially if they are good ie. Pearl, Tama, Sonor etc.

If you tune the toms higher than you would think, you get a lot more ring - batter head low, resonant head high works for me, a bit of 'boof' and a bit of 'oooom' :D

As for kick, maybe, MAYBE try the Evans head with a built-in dampener, I forget the name of it but Remo make a similar one called the superkick otr something. Lots of mid 'thud', not too many ringy noises, and not too much 'click'.

On the snare it sounds like you want the sound I have - tune your resonant so high it deadens the ring, then take it a 1/4 turn, and get the batter sounding even with a decent ring then take it up a 1/4 turn, then you get a real crack with hardly any ring...

Hope this helps - but most of all, experiment and don't be afraid to do things other people don't!
 
Glad I found this post.

I'm looking at drum heads for recording. I've kind of settled on G2's for batter side and an HD Dry for snare. Couple questions, though...

Do I need to replace the reso heads, too? If so, should I go with G1's and a Hazy 300?

Do I need to go with G2 coated heads or will clear be okay? I can use moongel if I need it.

One more...those EC2 heads, would those work for recording?
 
Ugh, more Evans...

What resonant heads do you have? Some are fine, some aren't. Tune them to the drum's 'sweet spot' and if they resonate a decent amount they're fine.

Coated heads will give a thicker, slightly 'angrier' tone, clear heads are smoother and better for more sustain. EC2's will work fine if you like their sound live.

And another thing... As you may have guessed, I'm not a big fan of Evans heads, but Never EVER use moongel - it does nothing that good tuning can't do first. If you MUST dampen the drums, use a wallet full of coins (especially on snare) a la Ringo Starr, or tape a small folded section of bandage or similar across the rim, with the fabric touching the skin but not the tape...
 
PDP are made by DW if I'm not mistaken, in which case the heads are probably of a certain quality and I would probably leave them on there for now, but definitely replace the batter heads.
 
Elton Bear said:
PDP are made by DW if I'm not mistaken, in which case the heads are probably of a certain quality and I would probably leave them on there for now, but definitely replace the batter heads.
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Yes, PDP is made by DW. However, I'm pretty sure they would out source the making of the stock heads that go on it. Just brand them with their name.
 
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