Equipment for Newbies

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Hahahahahahahaha!!! That's the funniest geek humor i've seen in a loooong time!

And I clicked on it. Perhaps I should register that domain before someone else does. :-P

knightfly said:
(joke) BTW, when shopping for a BS filter, remember that all filters are not created equal - for example, a cheaper passive BS filter just slightly rounds off BS and works only on fairly runny BS. With a more expensive ACTIVE BS filter, you can get up to 24 dB/octave slope, which results in sharply defined, crisp-edged BLOCKS of BS, quickly lowering in level to 0 BS. This would equate to a SPL (Shit Pressure Level) of less than ambient. Sooo, if you lived in a really shitty place, it would be a waste :=) of money to invest in a 24 dB/octave BS filter, because your surroundings would prevent you from ever knowing how well it worked. The only advantage then would be "bragging rights", which would normally require their own High-Q BS filter to limit levels of public disgust...

Now, for just a lot more money, TC makes the ultimate - the "SANITIZER", an all-in-one, do everything well, "royal flush" of BS filters. The Sanitizer is capable of separately filtering BS, CS, DS, GS, HS, MS, and even PS with the optional "humanizer" plug-in... for extreme conditions, there is also an optional oversized output to which you can connect a 6 inch sewer pipe. this saves several cycles of intermediate processing, and improves drastically on the "bypass" mode. Space does not allow a complete "run-down", but more can be found at www.U-B-FULLA-POOPIE.com - "no affiliation, I just use 'em"... Steve
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*ROTFLMFAO*!! Shiiit... this is probably the funniest board I've ever been on...

Don't forget the strobe lights. Flashy lights are cool, but strobe lights... and disco balls.. that's where it's at.

Bdgr said:
Make shure what ever you get it has tubes...and lots of flashy lights. And sliders...you need a lot of those....track lighting...gotta have track lights, and two rooms devided by a window...And the H.G. Signiture Series window unit air conditioner. and foamy stuff on the walls...gotta have that.


And a Harley Davidson...
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this is probably the funniest board I've ever been on...
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~singing in my best BTO voice~
You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
There is alot of humor on this board. But, on a serious note. I think 50/50 r&b v/s rap. I'm currently in the military and I'm moving to Louisiana in two weeks. I know a few guys that would like to do a demo. What type of virtual drum machine software? So, you think a goove/drum machine like the JS-5 or the DR 202 are no good for what I want to do? Where can I find good price for the equipment I need?
 
You didn't mention in your first post which computer you have, and whether it's fast enough to add the load of more virtual synth programs or not. You also left out the portability requirement (military), which would change my recommendations about a subwoofer. If you won't have access to a quiet area for recording, don't waste your money on anything beyond a Shure 58 without giving it a lot of thought. I would also consider upgrading your headphones to Sennheiser 280's for their accuracy and isolation. Sony 7506's are good isolation and probably great for beat heavy music, but are hyped toward that so you won't know as well what your stuff really sounds like. Normally we don't recommend phones for mixing, but if you're on the move you might have to make do for a while. You should always check your mixes on a variety of systems to make sure they translate well, even if you can afford $50,000 speakers. (Probably not AS necessary then, though)

If you're concerned with portability, that would be all the more reason (if your computer supports it) for doing as much as possible inside the computer.

So far, I've not gotten into soft drums, instead I have two different hardware drum modules and a couple of keyboards with pretty good samples. This will probably change with the next generation of DAW in my studio, hopefully by late fall or early winter, but for now I'm useless as a source of info. Went looking, found a general how-to that may help in some ways -

http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_killer_drum_grooves/index.htm

Also, check out Battery from Native instruments - there are free demos here -

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?error_us&type=1

Battery is available here for $139.95 if you like the demo -

http://soundstore.holdit.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?category=16&x=2

ships with over 30 soundsets and is compatible with samples for AKAI, SF2, LM4, AIFF, WAV and MAP. Here's the link to more info -

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?battery_us

As for places to buy, here are some of the places I've had good luck with in the past for web/mail order - some don't have everything but do have good prices on what they do have.

http://www.soundchaser.com/home.html

http://www.americanmusical.com/home.asp?UID=2002072900561792 Turn Cookies OFF - this site'll drive you nuts...

http://www.computersandmusic.com/cg...1/shophome.html?L+mystore1+snsd8771+923283875

http://www.midi-classics.com/

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/

http://www.samash.com/frameset.asp (cookie fiend)

http://www.altomusic.com/

http://www.audiomidi.com/

http://www.interstatemusic.com/

http://www.marsmusic.com/ - (cookie fiend)

http://www.midiwarehouse.com/

http://www.cdbm.com/shop/start.cgi

These are a few of the places I buy from - as with all stores, there is no one place that has lowest prices on EVERYTHING you want, so you need to compare.
 
You didn't mention in your first post which computer you have, and whether it's fast enough to add the load of more virtual synth programs or not. You also left out the portability requirement (military), which would change my recommendations about a subwoofer. If you won't have access to a quiet area for recording, don't waste your money on anything beyond a Shure 58 without giving it a lot of thought. I would also consider upgrading your headphones to Sennheiser 280's for their accuracy and isolation. Sony 7506's are good isolation and probably great for beat heavy music, but are hyped toward that so you won't know as well what your stuff really sounds like. Normally we don't recommend phones for mixing, but if you're on the move you might have to make do for a while. You should always check your mixes on a variety of systems to make sure they translate well, even if you can afford $50,000 speakers. (Probably not AS necessary then, though)

If you're concerned with portability, that would be all the more reason (if your computer supports it) for doing as much as possible inside the computer.

So far, I've not gotten into soft drums, instead I have two different hardware drum modules and a couple of keyboards with pretty good samples. This will probably change with the next generation of DAW in my studio, hopefully by late fall or early winter, but for now I'm useless as a source of info. Went looking, found a general how-to that may help in some ways -

http://emusician.com/ar/emusic_killer_drum_grooves/index.htm

Also, check out Battery from Native instruments - there are free demos here -

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?error_us&type=1

Battery is available here for $139.95 if you like the demo -

http://soundstore.holdit.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?category=16&x=2

ships with over 30 soundsets and is compatible with samples for AKAI, SF2, LM4, AIFF, WAV and MAP. Here's the link to more info -

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?battery_us

As for places to buy, here are some of the places I've had good luck with in the past for web/mail order - some don't have everything but do have good prices on what they do have.

http://www.soundchaser.com/home.html

http://www.americanmusical.com/home.asp?UID=2002072900561792 Turn Cookies OFF - this site'll drive you nuts...

http://www.computersandmusic.com/cg...1/shophome.html?L+mystore1+snsd8771+923283875

http://www.midi-classics.com/

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/

http://www.samash.com/frameset.asp (cookie fiend)

http://www.altomusic.com/

http://www.audiomidi.com/

http://www.interstatemusic.com/

http://www.marsmusic.com/ - (cookie fiend)

http://www.midiwarehouse.com/

http://www.cdbm.com/shop/start.cgi

These are a few of the places I buy from - as with all stores, there is no one place that has lowest prices on EVERYTHING you want, so you need to compare.

Sorry about the humor landslide, but Roel started it... :=) It's not my fault he caught me in one of "those" moods... Steve

(I AM kind of surprised that you're in the military and didn't snap to what a BS filter was - )
 
Thanks knightfly! I will check out the links. My cpu is a amd duron 1gig, 60gig hd, 52x cdrom, 12x8x36 cdrw. Do you prefer to use a groove machine with built-in accompaniment (strings, bass, piano, guitar and drums of course) to get different ideas for a new song? I'm not going to be traveling much. It's just when I get to Louisiana, I want to start making some new tracks.
 
What I use for a fairly simple idea machine is a Roland XP-50 keyboard workstation. The drum sounds on it are not endless, but most of them are good enough to make it into final tracks on occasion. I sometimes do all backing tracks on the XP with headphones, except guitars and vox - save it to floppy with the onboard floppy drive, and since it will save to Standard Midi Files I can then put that floppy into the DAW, import it into Cakewalk, separate it into separate tracks per channel with a macro, then sync to Samplitude (don't like Cake's methods of doing audio) and finish up vox, guitars, djembe, whatever. My SKB case for the XP has enough room for a compact set of phones and some floppies, so I have an 80% solution in one (heavy) case.

Another portable system I have is a Roland SK-88 Pro, 3-1/2 octave keyboard with GM sounds and a computer interface. That and my laptop with Cake and Samp and I can at least get scratch audio tracks as well as MIDI. (Using a Roland USB 20 bit interface)- as long as my MIDI tracks are played well, I can change voices to anything in the studio once I get it back to the DAW, just by opening the track in Cake and re-directing, then re-saving so that's what comes up the next time I open the project.

Once I'm back in the studio, that's when the drums get re-played with pads (expanded Roland V-custom set)(Don't drool too much, my E-drumset would more than wipe out your budget, sorry)

Really portable music production setups always seem to compromise somewhere, so you kind of have to decide what's important ALWAYS, and what you can live with part of the time until you get to the "mother ship"... Steve
 
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