emu 0404 vs audiophile 2496?

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EMU 0404 or the Audiophile 2496 which one would you choose?

  • EMU 0404

    Votes: 56 47.1%

  • the Audiophile 2496

    Votes: 63 52.9%
  • Total voters
    119
Dracon said:
Hey Christiaan - I wasn't trying to slam M-Audio or any other card. All I was stating was that (based on other people's experience) I decided against the E-MU card, regardless of audio quality.

I didn't mean to imply that M-Audio is inferior, and the guy at Intel is only familiar with consumer soundcards (Creative Labs, and SoundBlaster). He has no knowledge of M-Audio or any other audio recording technology. His advice (and praise of Creative) was based of his experience between consumer soundcards.
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No worries, I didn't see it as slamming M-Audio at all. My point was exactly what you said in your second paragraph.
All I have to add is: Congrats with your choice. :)

By the way, I don't think M-Audio has to worry about breaking even on the Delta series. I'm sure they already did. The Deltas have been on the market for quite a few years now. Same technology (saves development costs) for a broad line of interfaces. And I remember that while an Audiophile now costs as low as 88,- in Europe, two years ago they were well over 200,- with the 44 costing 300+ and a 66 400+.
 
fraserhutch said:
As for the guy from Intel....well, I will say that the Soundblaster cards suck for audio. I wouldn't even consider one for audio purposes. They're OK for gaming if you can live with the instability and malicious drivers.

My $0.02.
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?????? Huh? Uhmmm?? This is what I said earlier about sound blaster
Me quoting myself
'....and the guy at Intel is only familiar with consumer soundcards (Creative Labs, and SoundBlaster). He has no knowledge of M-Audio or any other audio recording technology. His advice (and praise of Creative) was based of his experience between consumer soundcards.'
He never recommended SoundBlaster, I was just saying he is only familiar with regular joe consumer soundcard products like Soundblaster and Creative Labs. His choice would be to go with Creative.
Anyway, my point in all this was to go with a card that I know has no driver issues. If I had a testing enviroment it would be a different world.
 
Bulls Hit said:
Good choice. That will keep you going for a while
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Yeah! I predict at the rate that I'm upgrading my systems, that I should be replacing my Delta 44 next week, and my Yamaha 10/2 just before new year. :D

Acutally I hope to keep both for at the very least for a year or more. If anything I would probably keep the Delta and upgrade the Yamaha.
 
fraserhutch said:
I'll disagree here. There are differences between sound cards, and there are those with the ears and experience to hear them.
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I agree with your disagreement :) If I had said for the majority of us homereccers I think it would have been fair comment. I reckon I can hear that my 0404 is clearer than the AP 2496 I had (in the short bursts that I got it to work) but I wouldn't put money on a blind listen, and anyway I think that once you get to the sort of base level these cards represent there are many other areas where improvements would be much more noticeable.
 
Drivers, drivers, drivers. Maudio takes the tried and true cake here. Not to say Emu won't catch up(it has yet to prove itself). Bottom line, if you are buying today, I would go Audiophile.
As a matter of fact, I ordered my Audiophile a few weeks ago, and should get it soon.
 
Vectron said:
Drivers, drivers, drivers. Maudio takes the tried and true cake here. Not to say Emu won't catch up(it has yet to prove itself). Bottom line, if you are buying today, I would go Audiophile.
As a matter of fact, I ordered my Audiophile a few weeks ago, and should get it soon.
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Congrats, on the new addition to your family. Which one did you get?
By the way what's the highest end that Audiophile makes?
 
....i have an Abit k8 with a via chipset...i put my ap24/96 in my buddy's computer while i was building this one. when i bought the xp upgrade (upgrading from windows me) it comes with SP2 automatically...should i scrap maudio and e-mu and go with echo? I'm kinda lost...but then again it is sunday morning and i havent had my coffee
 
Don't forget, drivers can be freely upgraded, unlike the hardware.

Personally:

Give me a superior hardware solution, and I'll put up with some funkiness in the drivers as long as I'm confident that a fix is upcoming and that support exists.

I will not buy an inferior solution.

My $0.02.
 
you'd be surprised how an inferior solution can bring superior results.
 
Dracon said:
Congrats, on the new addition to your family. Which one did you get?
By the way what's the highest end that Audiophile makes?
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Thanks, I ordered the standard PCI Audiophile 2496.

I think the new high end is the Audiophile 192 PCI($179).
 
fraserhutch said:
Don't forget, drivers can be freely upgraded, unlike the hardware.

Personally:

Give me a superior hardware solution, and I'll put up with some funkiness in the drivers as long as I'm confident that a fix is upcoming and that support exists.

I will not buy an inferior solution.

My $0.02.
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Just like those people that ordered the Bheringer BCA.
 
There are many stories along those lines, and always will be. Hence the disclaimer "as long as I'm confident that a fix is upcoming and that support exists."

I would NOT consider the BCA a superior solution in any stretch of the imagination. I know to place my trust in companies that have delivered in the past and that I am confident will deliver again. Given that a driver solution will almost invariably be released MUCH sooner than when I would normally be willing to upgrade hardware, I'll take my chances on a superior hardware solution, thanks.
 
Personally I would go with the tested driver. Unless, you have two systems, and have one to play with. Even then I rather play with my music, than play around with drivers and see what works on my computer or wait for someone to come out with a solution. Sure, I could build my own driver for the damn thing, but I want to have fun not get angry everytime I try to use something.
 
My vote is E-mu for the moment. It has the 1/4 instead of RCA. I feel 1/4 is more reliable.
And I'm not sure which driver is better ASIO or WDM.

I'll do a search I bet a poll has been done for that as well. As for the breakout cable not sure about that compared to the M-Audio onboard.




L8er,
livilaNic
 
It's like having a Yugo and then getting a Honda Accord EX.
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LMAO!!

I can not wait to tell my peeps at work you said that...

FYI, the MOTU PCI324 and M-Audio Delta Series drivers are the most rock-solid, stable drivers in the history of semi-pro audio produciton.

The EMU stuff is flashy, but new, and too young to be time tested. The Delta and PCI324 drivers have been out for at least 6 or more years, and both companies have huge departments devoted to updating and testing said drivers. Frankly, only Digidesign has better, but Digi has a VERY limited scope of "approved" products for it's software/hardware combinations.
 
Smack said:
The EMU stuff is flashy, but new, and too young to be time tested. The Delta and PCI324 drivers have been out for at least 6 or more years, and both companies have huge departments devoted to updating and testing said drivers. Frankly, only Digidesign has better, but Digi has a VERY limited scope of "approved" products for it's software/hardware combinations.
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I agree. EMU drivers are too flaky, and while EMU users will defend the reputation of their drivers with their life. The bottom line is that there are a lot of people (within the EMU forum) that have problems with the drivers. Creative (The manufacturer of E-MU cards) has always been flaky with their software drivers, and their software support. Sure, you can make it work and there have been several people who have made the cards work. You just can't be non chalant about installing E-MU cards. I'm also not interested in troubleshooting any driver issues.

I decided to go with a Delta 4/4 (I love it) because of the breakout box. Now I'm working on getting either a Firewire 410 or a 1814.
 
I like emu 0404 so far

Newbie to this forum, Been using emu 0404 for 3 months and has had no issues at all. Don't know for later down. use emu strictly for audio purposes. have not used the other one, yet.

win xp pro sp1
2.4 ghz
80 gig hd
Nuendo 1.6 (for audio)
Cakewalk pro (for midi)
Maudio 2x2 midi interface (which I had prior to purchasing emu) still works fine
 
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