Electric Drumkit.... Help

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Im thinking about getting an electric drumkit, but the one i want is alot cheaper without the drum module. Is there any other way to turn all the jack outputs from the drums into a MIDI signal to go into my PC?
 
Sure.

Alesis D4 module
Alesis D5 module

Or my personal favorite, a Roland PM16 (out of production, happy hunting on ebay).
 
Yeh that's the kit he was looking at. I'm also thinking of getting it. It has real drum heads on it doesn't it? Doesn't that make it quite loud? It it velocity sensative? Did you get the one with the DM5 from Thomann? How is their service? 'cause I'm just about to buy a bunch of stuff off them.
 
The most important thing in a e-drum kit is the module. That is what creates the midi signal. I got a Roland td-6 with a hart prodogy kit. The drums sucked and after playing on the 10" pads I decided to build my own kit. A friend of mine was moving and had an old shitty revere kit he was going to throw out, so I asked him if I could have it. I bought a set of mesh practice heads, some practice cymbals and made my own triggers. the cost of the heads, triggers and new cords was about $125 (us). the cost of the drum module was about $450 (us) new a few years ago. The biggest waste was spending money on the hart kit, which I never use. The converted acoustic kit feels much more natural than the other one. If yer on a budget there are ways around throwing tons of money at shit you might not need.

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rodvonbon (us)
 
Well Technominds, don't have an acoustic drumkit. This kit has actual drum heads and rims on it anyway so should feel more natural than the mesh or rubber on most e-drum kits.
 
pandamonk said:
Well Technominds, don't have an acoustic drumkit. This kit has actual drum heads and rims on it anyway so should feel more natural than the mesh or rubber on most e-drum kits.
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I never had an acoustic kit either. All im saying is if yer looking for an inexpensive way to have a e-drum kit, you can't totally cheap out on the module (although there are some inexpensive ones out there) but you can save money on the kit. Take that for what its worth. And Im sure 8" pads are more natural.

rod
 
From the site


Millenium MPS-300 E-Drum Padset with Drumrack, 4x 8"Drumpads (Snare and 3x Tom) + 1 Bassdrum-Pad with realdrumheads and metal-hoops, 3 cymbalpads (1x HiHat, 2xcymbals), incl. drumpedal, HiHat-Pedalcontroller (withjacks for Yamaha and Roland/Alesis), complete drumrackincl. holders for 19" Drumbrain (like Alesis DM5) andholder for Yamaha DTXpress and Roland TD6) and all cables


Real heads dont matter that much if they are stuffed with foam under them. It will make the drum quiet, but it won't have the same response as a mesh head.Mesh heads are quiet as hell and have real stick response. The metal hoops dont matter either unless they can dual trigger rim shots. A Remo practice pad kit with triggers will do that and cost half the price.
Im trying to give alternatives to spending tons of money, you spend yours as you see fit.

rodvonbon
 
wonder what that would sell for in the states.

My double-kit of antique simmons pads has definately seen better days...
 
I've used a Hart kit and also a Yamaha kit. Priced within $200 of eachother, the Yamaha kicks the Hart's tail in a BIG way. It could be attributed to a better framework or the pads themselves but, I was ready to forget edrums till I played on the Yamaha kit. I must say that for recording I will always prefer a "real" acoustic kit over edrums anyday. I'd almost rather program an entire song on my sr16 before I use edrums. Still the higher quality kits are usable. Now enough of my rambling.
 
I currently have this kit hooked upto my pc via the DM5, the DM5 was a seperate purchase quite a few years ago, think it cost me £50.

With the foam filled heads it does dampen the sound and it does take a little while to get the sound of the sticks on the pads out of your head but with headphones on you wont notice it.

In saying all this, it works perfectly and it will also be used in our live setup in the future.
 
I've done quite a bit of research on this lately. I too want an e-drum set but don't want to invest a ton of money in a sound module when i already have lots of great samples on my PC. So I bought a Roland PM16 on ebay for a hundred bucks. This unit takes the impulses from up to 16 trigger pads and converts them into midi signals. For some reason they don't produce these anymore so you have to look for one used.

I'm also planning to build my own drums. I have a couple of remo practice pads on order and I'm going to try to modify them using piezos (there are intructions for this all over the web). If this works as well as I hope, I'll buy more pads, modify them and build a tube rack to mount it all on. I'll post the results of my efforts on the board here if it all works out.
 
I used Pintec Piezos for the kit I put together and used rubber cement to glue them to the heads. It worked out really well. I also bought a set of practice cymbals for around $50 for a set of 8 (i think) , glued rubber pads to them as well as piezos and they are surprisingly quiet and reliable. You can't choke them, but you can smash the hell out of em'.

rodvonbon
 
Ohh, I'm thinking of getting this e-drumkit with this e-snare and using the snare of the kit as a tom. I'm sure this will work, but gotta be sure. Think it's a good idea. The e-snare comes with triggered rims too, and wudnt want triggered rims on toms anyway, lol.
 
It should look a little something like this
 

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