drum triggering

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alright, how does this work? ive always watched the engineers whenever at a studio but i cant figure out how the trigger lines up with all the kick or snare hits? is anything special needed besides the trigger module itself?
 
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Not enough information to tell for sure what your objective is here, but here's something to look at.

Drumagog
 
Are you asking about putting triggers on accoustic drums to "trigger" electronic sounds? Or are you asking about feeding recorded accoustic drum sounds though a converter to "trigger" electronic sounds?
 
the second...everytime i have gone into a studio, i go ahead and lay down the drum tracks and then when the engineer would mix, i would pick a snare for the snare and a kick for the kick through his trigger modules. somehow (what i want to figure out) he would play the tracks and as the module read kick and snare hits, it would lay them down simultaniously onto another track so that i would have one real snare track and another trigger track. that way i could blend the real snare with the trigger and get some real awesome kick and snare tones. so now can you help me?

thanks
 
yup im a newb said:
the second...everytime i have gone into a studio, i go ahead and lay down the drum tracks and then when the engineer would mix, i would pick a snare for the snare and a kick for the kick through his trigger modules. somehow (what i want to figure out) he would play the tracks and as the module read kick and snare hits, it would lay them down simultaniously onto another track so that i would have one real snare track and another trigger track. that way i could blend the real snare with the trigger and get some real awesome kick and snare tones. so now can you help me?

thanks
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They are most likely doing that through the outs on the mixer to the triggers on the drum module..
 
As Scott said, the engineer takes a direct out for each drum track and feeds them to (most likely a drum module). The module has converters which converts the sound vibration to a trigger signal. This then triggers the drum module which produces and analog sound signal though a cable back into the mixing board (most likely through another channel).

This works well with drum sounds that have a fast attack and a short decay, however it does not work well at all with things like cymbals (for obvious reasons) and naturally, accoustic cymbals sound better than e-cymbals anyway.

Reallly this it not much different than putting triggers on drum heads to trigger a module.
 
thanks for the help guys...

so i would go out from say the kick channel on my board, go in the trigger module, out and then into an available channel?
 
That's pretty much it.

However, depending on what recoding medium you end up useing, another way that many studios do this is as follows:

Put triggers on the drums and trigger a sound module, which then records the MIDI performance. At the same time you record the actual analog drum sounds you record the MIDI data. You can then use the MIDI performance to trigger the drum sounds whenever you want.

Natually that requires adding triggers to your drums. However that can help provide more accurate triggering. The down side to feeding the recorded signal into a module is that you can compromise the ability of the module to process the dynamics.

Solid kick hits and snare backbeats may work fine, but the module may not be able to track the ghost notes - naturally even with drum triggers that can be an issue.
 
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