Don't Buy Any "MoreMe" Mic Holders !!

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I noticed that Radio Shack is having a sale on the Shure type mic holders for 99¢, which is damn cheap. I don't know if they have the threaded brass insert or not, but at that price, who cares? I've also added a red warning notice to the MoreMe page, advising people not to buy these clips from me during the month of July.

The rest of the MoreMe stuff (at http://www.itrstudio.com/moreme.html) is still a good deal, including the other mic clip I have (the spring clip kind). At least, I think they're good deals. So far, I've only had one bad pair of headphones (that I know of), out of several hundred pairs sold.

I haven't heard too many comments from the people here who've bought the MoreMe headphones or extension cables. Are they working out okay for you?
 
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I've recorded about 10-15 bands with the more-me phones and have always asked the guys what they thought of them. So far, nothing but positive. I do have more exspensive phones I use when tracking vocals for example, but those bands that remember my "old" headphones really appreciate the more-me's during tracking. Previously, I had "hall of fames", which all broke. (8 pairs), and a rag-tag group of other brands of questionable quality... (they sucked).
I even had a guy who liked to use them more than my Sony MDR-V700's, but I can't exsplain/understand that.
I actually saw a pair of the "more-me's" in a mom & pop hobby store. Well almost, they had a volume knob on each ear instead of the ST/Mono switch, and they didn't say "more me"... (they were on a REALLY high shelf, and since I wasn't going to buy them I didn't ask the elderly salesperson to climb after them.)
I like the short cords on them (obviously, I always use extentions), I no longer face the dreaded "coiled cord" tangle.
I may tape the ST/Mono switch to stereo. Amazingly, musicians seem able to bump the switch to mono and not notice :confused: . I never exspected that. How could you not notice your stereo mix had gone to mono?
Anyway, the headphones are working fine. Thanks for asking.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
I haven't heard too many comments from the people here who've bought the MoreMe headphones or extension cables. Are they working out okay for you?


Shit. I didn't realize you had extension cables.


I'll be ordering like 100 or so from you real soon. :D

Okay, maybe more like 10, but I'm extremely thankful that you have what I'm assuming are some decent headphone cables. Honestly, the Radio Shack crap sucks. I've gone through like 10 of them in the past 4-5 months.

Pure shit, I tell ya.

:D Say, you don't still have me on "ignore," do ya' ? :D

If so, I'll be in touch via phone or email. I miss gabbing with the Harvster.
 
Hats off to Harvey!!!! Can you imagine Sam Ash putting up a sign saying "Don't buy Here today! Guitar Center is cheaper!"
:)

I'm not tracking anybody but me, but if I ever branch out, More-Me's are on the top of my list!
 
Re: Re: Don't Buy Any "MoreMe" Mic Holders !!

chessrock said:
I miss gabbing with the Harvster.
....hmmm -- if that's so then why did you... er... nevermind......
 
Re: Re: Don't Buy Any "MoreMe" Mic Holders !!

chessrock said:

:D Say, you don't still have me on "ignore," do ya' ? :D

If so, I'll be in touch via phone or email. I miss gabbing with the Harvster.

your mind must be a playground the way your mood swings....:p
 
I don't have anybody on "Ignore".

The "MoreMe" headphone extension cables are longer (25 feet), less expensive (only $6), and heavier duty (thicker jacket), compared to the Radio Shack cables.

Gorbyrun,

It doesn't surprise me that some people will prefer MoreMe's to more expensive phones. since the MoreMe's will let you hear the midrange a little better than flatter phones. I've had people prefer the MoreMe's to the 7506's, the 240's, and other, far more expensive phones.

Same thing with stereo vs. mono - sometimes a singer will do better when they're not distracted by a stereo image. When you're concentrating on nailing a vocal, who gives a shit about hearing a tom solo whirling around inside your head? And mono is absolutely essential when you're tracking two backup singers sharing a set of headphones. Each singer gets a headphone cup and hears their voices in the air as well, important to some singers for maintaining pitch.

Finally, those phones that look like the MoreMe's, but with volume controls on each earpiece? Avoid them like the plague; they'll break faster than you can say "Hall of Fame Phones suck". When I was investigating headphones, I tried them and I've got 5 broken pair sitting here to prove it.

These Chinese factories that make headphones put out similar looking units for many distributors, but they're not all the same inside, even though they look identical outside. (Sound familiar?) I found these phones which were designed for institutional use, like listening to living books, etc. You sit at a listening station and plug them into a special cassette or CD player, hence the short cord. They're designed to be used 24 hours a day.

The units with volume controls use cheap pots which can't handle the power of tracking a loud live band, and they're designed for occasional use or for home stereo systems. They may look similar (or even identical to the MoreMe's), but they're not designed for heavy duty use.

The very short coiled cord is the giveaway. If it's got a longer cord, it's probably not designed for heavy use. If it has volume controls, they WILL fail for tracking loud music.

I went thru about 20 different brands of "Chinese" headphones to find these. A lot of the other brands looked identical to these - they weren't. Some are branded as Pyramid, Calrad, Nippon American (even though they're made in China), and about five other brands, and they look identical to the MoreMe's, but they're not.

The short coiled cord is the key, I think. Those are the institutional models and they're a lot heavier duty than all the rest of the Chinese phones. If you run across those for a cheap price, get em - you're probably safe.

But you won't find them in quantity anywhere, getting them fixed under warranty will be a bitch, and they won't be color coded.

Sorry for the rant. Yesterday, I cleaned out the local distributor again, and they still won't stock more than about 40 or so of the damn phones. And shipping charges would raise the phone prices outrageously.

Selling studio stuff sometimes sucks seriously. :mad:
 
Harvey Gerst said:
I noticed that Radio Shack is having a sale on the Shure type mic holders for 99¢, which is damn cheap. I don't know if they have the threaded brass insert or not, but at that price, who cares? I've also added a red warning notice to the MoreMe page, advising people not to buy these clips from me during the month of July.

Harvey you will never make any money with that type of attitude ;)

I just got my More Me cans and extensions in today. Thanks for the quick service.

They sound and look better than I expected. Pretty comfortable and they stay on easily. The extension cables are much nicer than the Rat Shack ones. I've got a session next week so I'll get to really put them through the paces.

That cable is so ridiculously short you might consider just pricing the cans with the extension. But I guess people who already have extensions wouldn't want that.
 
As I explained somewhere above, the short cable usually means that the phones were intended for institutional applications, like learning labs and libraries. That's why I started searching for extension cords almost immediately.

I understand that the Radio Shack "Shure type" mic holders on sale for 99¢ don't have the 5/8" brass insert, but at that price, it's a great deal anyway.

I don't really care if I make a lot of money or not with this stuff. It's more about having fun supplying a good product at a reasonable price. Right now, it's kinda a "pretend company" that takes up around 20 square feet of floor space, and a few files on my computer. I've even figured out how to automatically print directly on the Post office customs form, even with my signature.

If I could find a reliable supplier of these phones to the public at a reasonable price, I'd recommend them instead. I got into it because there was nobody else that was willing to make the investment, and I felt they would really be of benefit to small studios and home reccers on a very tight budget.

And it at least gets me out of the studio, if only for a few minutes each day, to make the trip to the post office.

So, as long as it's fun for me and serves a real need, I'll keep doing it.
 
...

Harvey,

You are the best :). I'm new to the home studio thing (being the teenager I am :)) but, after the Fostex VF80, Behringer MX602, and 4 mics that I bought last week, you'll be the next person I call for a purchase. Make sure to save a pair for me -- I found out the hard way that the soft Sony headphones are no more closed then the stuff that comes with Walkmen.

I can't wait to record drums without hearing the clicking of the metronome on the tape afterwards.
 
Harvey, first, thanks for the 2 sets of phones and ext. cable you sent. I compared them (unfairly) to my Grado SR125's. Well, you know the result. But for the money these are great and I plan on using them alot here at home. Definately better sound and isolation that the Technics I have.
I have a question about the "midrange mod" you suggested. What size piece of foam (thickness & dia.) do you suggest to use for this? Thanks again for offering these. Now I won't have to worry about lending the Grado's to anyone! LOL. Take care.
 
Harvey, the 'More Me' phones are excellent value for money. I got a little paranoid stretching the cable, but it seemed to take it ok. Thanks for sending them out so fast.
 
Wannaplay said:
Harvey, first, thanks for the 2 sets of phones and ext. cable you sent. I compared them (unfairly) to my Grado SR125's. Well, you know the result. But for the money these are great and I plan on using them alot here at home. Definately better sound and isolation that the Technics I have.
I have a question about the "midrange mod" you suggested. What size piece of foam (thickness & dia.) do you suggest to use for this? Thanks again for offering these. Now I won't have to worry about lending the Grado's to anyone! LOL. Take care.
They also have more isolation than your Grado SRs. I love the Grado headphones - any model, but I can't mix on them; everything sounds too good on Grados.

The "mid mod" is pretty simple - whatever that will block the cavity resonance behind the drivers. It can be the stuff they put in pillows, kleenex, closed cell foam, a few layers of soft cloth; just about anything that will absorb the mids and fill the cavity. I'd use the pillow stuffing myself.
 
Sounds great, Harvey,

I just ordered a pair of the headphones myself so I can't wait to see what all the fuss is about :).
 
Harvey Gerst said:
I noticed that Radio Shack is having a sale on the Shure type mic holders for 99¢, which is damn cheap. I don't know if they have the threaded brass insert or not, but at that price, who cares? I've also added a red warning notice to the MoreMe page, advising people not to buy these clips from me during the month of July.

The rest of the MoreMe stuff (at http://www.itrstudio.com/moreme.html) is still a good deal, including the other mic clip I have (the spring clip kind). At least, I think they're good deals. So far, I've only had one bad pair of headphones (that I know of), out of several hundred pairs sold.

I haven't heard too many comments from the people here who've bought the MoreMe headphones or extension cables. Are they working out okay for you?

The brass inserts are ALL that hold the mic to the stand. Without them, the RS ones last pretty much 1 (one) attempt at screwing them on. Let alone the fact that the RS part might not even hold the mic at all. Pay for the MoreMe and enjoy. Life is too short to save a few cents on mic holders.
 
Dexter411 said:
Sounds great, Harvey,

I just ordered a pair of the headphones myself so I can't wait to see what all the fuss is about :).
Actually, there shouldn't be any fuss about these headphones at all. They're just exactly what they claim to be: cheap-ass headphones that provide decent isolation, decent output, and won't break as easily as the higher priced phones. For $20, they're better than most people expect. When you consider that you can buy five of these for what a pair of Sony 7506s cost, they're an even bigger bargain.

Do they sound as good as the Sony 7506? Duh, well no. But do they sound "good enough" to hear yourself ok, when the whole band is playing? Yup.

About the only exciting thing about the MoreMe headphones is the next morning after the session, when you find a pair that's been stepped on by what must have been a water buffalo, and you smile, because it'll only cost you $5 or so to replace them, instead of a 100 bucks.
 
My uncle gave me a pair of old Koss from the 70's that seem indestructable. LOL

They are ugly as hell and has 2 knobs on each side.

I think they are bass and treble knobs.

The only thing not 70s about them is the fact that they are missing woodgrain.


Malcolm
 
Hey, just ordered a pair of the phones... I think this is great, because I don't really need a high end pair of headphones (seeing as your not supposed to mix on them anyway), but I do need isolation ;) Thanks!
 
malcolm123 said:
My uncle gave me a pair of old Koss from the 70's that seem indestructable. LOL

They are ugly as hell and has 2 knobs on each side.

I think they are bass and treble knobs.

The only thing not 70s about them is the fact that they are missing woodgrain.


Malcolm
Some of the old Koss headphones are indestructable. Not so, some of the newer models. Koss makes most of the Radio Shack headphones, and they've been pretty disappointing to me lately. Koss was once a very respected name in the industry.
 
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