Dogman and 60's Come Together

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Dogman and I finally collaborated as a two man distortion team.

Come Together

Dogman – bass, guitars, drums.

60’s – keys, vocals

Please critique.

I know there are many things wrong here with this mix, so tell Dogman what he did wrong besides letting me add to it. :) ;)
 
Very cool, sounds very good. Not a huge fan of the effect on the voice, it might work on one section but not the whole tune. Background vox sound good. Drums are very good and fit right in, love em.

We need a lead guitar!
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Oh yeah, needs a wanking solo.

Very cool. :)
 
DavidK said:
Very cool, sounds very good. Not a huge fan of the effect on the voice, it might work on one section but not the whole tune. Background vox sound good. Drums are very good and fit right in, love em.



Oh yeah, needs a wanking solo.

Very cool. :)
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Thanks for listening David! I wasn't all that crazy with the vocal effect myself. I was messing around with the TC Helicon just for the hell of it.

You're right! Ed did a good job on the drums......and guitars.....if I may say so.
 
Cool! You using a 5 bass Dogman or a pitch shifter?


:D DavidK said wanking, he he :p

I can do one hell of a wanking solo! Hard to get it to stand out in the mix though :D



F.S.
 
Good rumour!
SOLO & FIX VOX.
I like the squeally noise between the riffage too.
MORE BASS please.
Why can't you reach to scratch?
Hung too low?
 
Cool song idea for a collab. I think everything is performed very well and sounds pretty good. I'd personally like to hear the big floppy drums a little more up front and more guitar/bass, or drop the vox down a little to sit in the mix better. That's just me though. I didn't like the vox effects much at first, but as the song went along it grew on me and now I see it working. Overall I like it a lot and yall did a good job. :)
 
The effects on the vocals are probably in the original file, as you mentioned you were playingaround with the TC. So they are there to stay unless you feel like retracking. The effect is pretty cool, except I find the sibilance is bit high in parts. If you could eq/de-ess some of that out, that would be beneficial. I agree the instruments could come forward a bit. But that's just a personal preference - the mix is cool as it sits now.....it has a cool sound to it. Playing and singing is really good, enjoyed your take on this classic.....

:) :D :) :D
 
Wow that was pretty sweet there fellas

I can't really give feedback on the mix as I'm hearing it on a laptop but the vocals seem a bit loud.
 
60's guy said:
:eek:

Dogman and I finally collaborated as a two man distortion team.

Come Together

Dogman – bass, guitars, drums.

60’s – keys, vocals

Please critique.

I know there are many things wrong here with this mix, so tell Dogman what he did wrong besides letting me add to it. :) ;)
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Lots of fun to be had here! Lots to talk about productionwise, but you guys did a really good job collaborating..

My nits:
- Vox are right up in your face and REALLY edgy EQ. I don't mind the chorus/doubler thing, but the highs need to be reined in a little.

- The soundfield is kinda misplaced; the vox are right there singing into your ear, but the rhythm section sounds like it was recorded from the next room over, it's soft and distant by comparison; wetter, but it's overdriven too, oddly.

- I might have put down a click track first to play to, there's a bit of meter/rudiment wandering in the drums. Not serious, but there.

On the upside, the feel is wonderfully authentic, you both sing and play with a lot of soul. The performances themselves are right on, it's just niggly production issues.

Some general good practices (Otherwise known as "subjects for hot debate" :D ):

- Record dry. Do your effects in post. (Except guitar distortion.) Keeps your options open.
- Record so that you never exceed -6dB anywhere. Adding gain when needed is easy; removing clipping is nigh onto impossible. Headroom is your friend.
- Record flat; you can always add EQ later.
- When EQing, try to never boost frequencies. Always try to CUT frequencies to get to a particular "curve". +db = distortion if you're not VERY careful.
- When checking to see if your master mix works, listen to it on multiple sources: your monitors, a computer speaket set, your car, a boom box, and a "real" stereo. If it doesn't sound right in ANY one of them, then it needs fixing for all of them.
- Try not to mix and master the same day you track. Get your ears away from it for awhile, approach with "fresh ears". You'd be amazed at what you hear when your ear is not conditioned from hearing the track over and over.
 
This is really dirty sounding but in a good way. Makes me want to add an angular distorted elec gtr line. I just might, whether you want one or not. :p :p
If I get anything useable I'll be back Sunday night.
 
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fix the vox!

too loud, takes away from everything else in the song.

also listening on a laptop and i cant hear much else cept the vox and a lot of action on the low end of things.

are those fake drums like ezdrummer or something?

still cool and hope you guys had fun :)
 
Watch out. This is about to turn into a guitar orgy. Rough mix coming soon.
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Watch out. This is about to turn into a guitar orgy. Rough mix coming soon.
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Anfontan has a couple of mixes he did with some guitars that he added. I also have his tracks, and I retracked the main vocal, but I haven't mixed it yet. :)
 
Just wanted to give a thumbs up to your efforts guys! I kinda dig the vocal effect and it makes this unique..I also agree that the instrumentation sounds a bit distant as compared to the vocals and gives this a bit of a out of balance feel to it...other than that, this rocks!
 
Come Together with guitar

The guitars are mixed as raw live improv rather than as a planned arrangement, and the listener has the perspective of the guitarist on the right side.

EDIT: I like the version I posted three posts down from this one better, using just one gtr line, so I'm changing this post's link to go to that file.
 
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