Does my audio still have room echo?

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You have one raymond? They're brilliant. The esmono rep from studiospares told me that the steel does most of the work, and the filling is icing on the cake, damping resonances and adding a bit more. My old college had some and when the building was demolished, they did not realise they were removable and they got bulldozed!
 
Do I need to treat this corner? Because there is a cupboard inbtw the sound wouldnt directly go there so I thought maybe I dont have to treat it.
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From your recording, no. You are trying to find rules to cover acoustics, and the first rule is try it. Second analyse it with perhaps noise or tones, and the rule three fix problems.
 
plautus said:
Do I need to treat this corner? Because there is a cupboard inbtw the sound wouldnt directly go there so I thought maybe I dont have to treat it.
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You are not paying attention to the replies - acoustically your room is a disaster - way to junky - why is there a lamp on the floor? Putting up drapery with the intent of ‘fixing’ audio problems is a fools errand - you don’t know what is a problem in the room to begin with.
 
many voice actors record in small tubes. Doesn't this make the sound very 'boxy'?
 
Small tubes? If you mean those vocalshields that are popular, they're just foam so good if the rear of the mic picks up reflections from a wall - they help, but again, foam only works higher up. I've got one, and they are just a bit odd to work with. My studios aren't a problem.

So they don't make it boxy if this is what you are thinking, but a tube? Not really sure what you mean. Have you an image?
 
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Small tubes? If you mean those vocalshields that are popular, they're just foam so good if the rear of the mic picks up reflections from a wall - they help, but again, foam only works higher up. I've got one, and they are just a bit odd to work with. My studios aren't a problem.

So they don't make it boxy if this is what you are thinking, but a tube? Not really sure what you mean. Have you an image?
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no i meant to say vocal booths or what they r called, the small rooms where opeople record in, for voice over, theose very small ones where it's just u and the mic and ur laptop
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They are quite oppressive to work in - the image on the right is better - but that screen is a non no - reflective and spoils everything the tiles do? The left ones is like the tiny spaces in outside broadcast truck - they sound very strange and mixes you do translate very differently to what you imagine. Very narrow speaker spacing, little real bass and the deadness all make it necessary to have a good knowledge of how to mix when you can't hear properly. For speech? Probably OK. Square tubes? A bit like a spherical pyramid he he.
 
Are you trying to do voice over or audio books? I think regardless of the treatment, the key to getting voice over work isn't going to be whether you have bass traps or a lot of foam panels or just egg cartons on the wall. It's going to be your voice. Your enunciation, your timber and expression, how you control your breathing are going to be the most important thing.

A reasonably quiet and somewhat deadened room with a superb voice over actor is going to win every time over a master built studio with a $3000 microphone, a $2000 preamp, professional sound treatment and person with no technique or vocal quality.

I once did a 35 minute tour/training program in an basement with just carpet and paneling, a reel to reel tape deck, and an old AKG D160 microphone. It was used for some 10 years for customer visit presentations. It wasn't the quality of the gear or location that worked.
 
so for audio to sound good the room has to be big>?
rob aylestone said:
They are quite oppressive to work in - the image on the right is better - but that screen is a non no - reflective and spoils everything the tiles do? The left ones is like the tiny spaces in outside broadcast truck - they sound very strange and mixes you do translate very differently to what you imagine. Very narrow speaker spacing, little real bass and the deadness all make it necessary to have a good knowledge of how to mix when you can't hear properly. For speech? Probably OK. Square tubes? A bit like a spherical pyramid he he.
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You keep trying to apply rules. My home studio was built into an extended garage. Not wide, but 30ft long. Divided into two rooms. These were room within rooms so sound proof, but sounded boxy. I needed traps, and panels on the walls and ceiling to tame the sound. Sound proof and sound treated, but tiring to work in for long times. No aircon, but big 8” ducting to get stuffy air out and fresh air in. My video studio, at the office is bigger, and so much nicer to work in. Years back i had a vocal booth 3ft x 3ft and terrible to be in. Turned into a storage space in the end.

Small generally means lots of reflections that thin foam cannot cure, and you get that ‘boxy’ sound.
 
I have been infesting audio forums for well over ten years and the concept of "the Vocal Booth" comes up regularly.
People seem to have grabbed onto the idea that a VB is a tiny space which is somehow magically transformed to have acceptable acoustics. Not so. Such booths were built in fairly noisy "news gathering" areas for radio broadcasts. They took up a fair amount of space because they needed walls sometimes over 1/2mtr thick of acoustic absorbent material. A window was usually provided but would be double or triple glazed 6mm or heavier glass. The resultant room would be acoustically dead and quiet but necessarily small. Complex and expensive measure would be needed to ventilate/cool/heat it.

One advantage of the 'deadness' was that the listener at home only got the acoustics of their own room and so the newsreader seemed very "intimate".

Dave.
 
I'll just point out that Esmono did a small cubicle for voice work. Think it was 1m by 1.2m.
Rockwool in the perforated inner walls.
That was probably dead-ish and fine for the job.
If you require reverb, add it artificially.
 
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