Does my audio still have room echo?

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11" is a very big fist. No echo (remember echo is where reflections give you a distinct, separate return - like HELLO, hello or ECHO, echo. Reverberation is when the other reflections all blur together and make it sound like a bigger space. Your recording is quite dry.
 
That doesn't matter. We cannot hear anything annoying - so no reverb or echo that jumps out. It just sounds 'real'. If you record outside, with no wind, and no noises that would be the most realistic 'no reverb'. The worst 'no reverb' is when people slap thick acoustic tiles everywhere and it sounds like artificial silence.

The question of course is - do YOU hear something you don't like? If it annoys you, treat it. A really good test is to stay silent and clap. You are close enough to the mic that what reflections you have are low enough to ignore. Treated rooms just reduce problems. It's perfectly possible not to have any problems to treat? Use your ears, and trust them.
 
too late I already bought a soun absorbing curtain which I plan to install in the middle of the room
 
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There is room sound in your recording - it doesn’t bother me in the slightest - also the way you enuciate is also adding to the ‘air’ like sound - which also doesn’t bother me in the sightest - IMO it adds character to the track.
 
If you make the room very dead, it gets oppressive to work in. To put this into context. My video studio was very live, but with the mic in close, it didn't really matter. Then one day a job came in the needed a blue screen on 3 of the 4 walls. Part 2 involved some people who were wearing blue shirts, so I rigged a green screen but could not be bothered to remove the blue. A few days later, I needed black. I realised these drapes freed up some useful storage space, so I overhung the black, and also put up the remaining white. It took a few days for me to realise the space was much deader, and I liked it better - so I left it all up. Hopefully your new curtain will make it sound better to you, and if it does, all is good.
 
Yes, a dry, perfectly acceptable room for speech recording. The room might not be quite so good if recording wide band music, especially the low end.

I think people often get confused about room treatment because there are different requirements for acoustic RECORDING and monitoring and mixing/balancing a production.

For the former it is what it is. An "event" in a particular place and so long as it does not have any obvious flaws, flutter echo, bass peaks, extreme brightness due to a lot of hard surfaces, 's ok. (like the OP's)

But when you come to mix several instrument tracks and produce a balanced result the room must be very well behaved and not add "colour" of its own. It might not be obvious but when you think about it...you have recorded the singer, guitar, bass and drums in 'the room'. Now, if you also monitor in the same room you are doubling any shortcomings it might have. Maybe they go unnoticed during the performance but stick out like the proverbial bashed thumb on the monitors!
The room might also not be so good at giving a convincing stereo image but that seems to have lost much of its importance in this the 'buds' age?

Just my 2pee'oth!

Dave.
 
plautus said:
u hear no reverb>?
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When you hear the reverb, are you hearing this through the speakers in your listening space? In this scenario, sound will reflect about and sound more reverb-y in a not so well treated space. And if you do not hear the reverb in headphones, this might be your answer. (I listened to your audio, and as others have commented, I agree with not hearing a problem with an "echo-y" sounding space). I would be more concerned with applying a de-esser than anything else.
 
okay, bc i ordered curtains, and wasnt sure anymore if I need them.
THey will arrive these days.
I watched some youtube videos and realized that i was too far away from the mic, when i got even closer the room sound kinda disappeared. There might be still some reverb in the low mids which makes the sound a bit muddy. I dont know if it is the mic or if it is caused by reverb.
But should I try the curtain now anyway>?
 
You are discovering how sound works. Youve also discovered that your room impacts sound twice. Once when you record then again when you press play. You discovered that source to mic distance is a vital part of recording, but you may have also discovered it also changes the tone of your voice. Your quest is to find the right position, the right distance, the right orientation and then be able to repeat it every session. Personally, if you dont need the sound curtain, why waste money. You also may have ordered something really good, or something totally rubbish. You responded, I assume, to an advert, NOT a recommendation from somebody experienced in audio. Many people use duvets when they need absorption. They work quite well. If they solve a problem, then they buy proper ones that do the same thing but look nicer.
 
I have ordered something extremely good i believe, better than the typoical sound absorbing blankets for booth
 
plautus said:
I have ordered something extremely good i believe, better than the typoical sound absorbing blankets for booth
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Hmm, I detect a whiff of snake oil there? Remember, an open window has a sound absorbency of infinity*, it leaves and nothing comes back. ANY kind of material is going to be worse.

*Well, actually rated as "1". Everything else is less than unity.

Dave.
 
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I ordered 2 of them with this size, so I can easily go through it in the middle. As u can see, it's thick and dense and the surface (the yelklow one) is felt or something, so it sghould absorb a lot of sound, unlike the typical booth curtains that seem to have a smooth surface. Unfortunately long waiting shipping times, so this is why i sent u their images instead of mine,.
 
No, it won't absorb much at all. Too thin. Sure, it will remove lots of the HF, but most low end will pass straight through. You will hear it make the sound duller up top. If that is what is needed, great - but look at typical pieces of sound control. Rockwool is great - but look how much depth people use - 50mm/2" is absolute minimum to get much useful at the bottom, and people often double it up to twice the depth. The duvets work well because they too are thick. A curtain like this might be nice on a window to help the sound of something annoying locally getting in - but they are not studio products.
 
rob aylestone said:
No, it won't absorb much at all. Too thin. Sure, it will remove lots of the HF, but most low end will pass straight through. You will hear it make the sound duller up top. If that is what is needed, great - but look at typical pieces of sound control. Rockwool is great - but look how much depth people use - 50mm/2" is absolute minimum to get much useful at the bottom, and people often double it up to twice the depth. The duvets work well because they too are thick. A curtain like this might be nice on a window to help the sound of something annoying locally getting in - but they are not studio products.
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damn. Can u show me curtains that are t hick aenough>?
 
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