Discrimination At Large

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And now that I understand what the freakin' heck is going on let me respond...

First, in the matter of automatically disliking merchandise from Southeast Asia...

Discrimination, simply because a product had a certain country of orign, seems to me to be a matter of peronal opinion. It may be ignorant and short sighted, and I may enjoy pointing out to someone what a backasswards idiot they are being if I know them really really well and are feeling onery, but when all is said and done I really don't consider that discrimination... that is simply a matter of taste. It is not discrimination if I don't want to hang around really smelly people, people who use profanity extensively, or read posts by people who are (apparently) functionally illiterate.

And that kind of leads us into the second issue.

Gravity, you come across (in a literary sense) as a babbling idiot. I used to work at the courthouse in downtown LA and there was an amazing assortment of characters standing around, begging for money, and apparently slowly decomposing on their feet. Some of them were pleasant, one black guy dressed always in flowing white like some kind of Bedouin in particular, and some were not. There was one guy who was dirty... in evey sense of the word... foul mouthed, and always talking to his personal demons and swinging at thin air. I do not consider myself discriminating simply because I preferred to sit and talk with the black guy!

There is no issue that you have a mind between your ears, but you are fooling yourself if you think you can express yourself in this fashion and have people take you seriously!! You may be of the opinion that simply because you eat, breathe, and shit that people should consider you seriously, but the reality is that you are the guy swinging at the air!! Recognise that YOU need to change, not everyone else, and try really really hard to make it happen!!! I am sure you have good things to say! It would be a shame if no one listened.
 
I dont care if noone listened, and I dont really think I need to change the way I think(may be the way I type needs a change). All I did was not following some rules, and I got so much from here. Anyway I hope I ll get my doubts cleared in here, at least.
 
So you don't like brand/manufacturer (sp?) discrimination, you're easily offended by minor racial and cultural stereotypes, and dispite everybody's best efforts, you refuse to learn to speak English at a socially acceptable level. Are you sure you're a musician? You're a drummer arn't you!
 
Welcome to my ignore list.
D-Gravity said:
I dont care if noone listened, and I dont really think I need to change the way I think(may be the way I type needs a change). All I did was not following some rules, and I got so much from here. Anyway I hope I ll get my doubts cleared in here, at least.
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In terms of disliking products from certian countries it is sometimes due to discrimination. Typically however it is due to observed correlations between poorly produced products and their country of origin. Because of some countries economic conditions, average level of education, morals and standards of production etc, it becomes difficult for compainies to produce certain products with the same quality as other countries.This is not saying that some people are better than others,or that all products from these countries are bad or even that this all products from these countries are worse than the products from other countries; it is merely saying the certain conditions present in certian countries make it difficult to produce certain products. This then leads to trends in product quality, which is eventually observed and expected by people. Most people don't hate other countries for poor products, nor do they feel that it is impossible to create a good product in that country; they simply acknolodge that it is likely for certain products coming from certian countries to not meet the quality similar products from countries better equiped for its production.

And rarely is it said about all asian countries, normally, it is only china and some other south eastern asian countries. Actually countries such as japan are well respected for thier products, being the home of most major drums company's highest product lines. I do not feel everything thinks it is just america either, what about england, they are very well respected on this forum for thier musical equipment(marhsal amps).

Keep in mind that, in a country such as china, it is much cheaper to manufacture a product than it would be in one such as the United States. Regardless of this bussinesses still produce products in countries such as the U.S. This is not because billion dollar world wide companies have no concept of bussiness but because these countries lack the ability to produce various aspects as they wish them for them to be produced. That is why companies's higher level products are produced in countries such as the U.S., England, and Japan, and why people expect the quality of these products to be higher.

Sorry for ranting but you insulted the forum and this bothered me. Yes, some people are actually rascist, but to call someone a rascist just because they expect the quality of a product to be higher because it was produced in a country whose given conditions were more suited for its production is stupid. If anyone is being predjudice here its you. You assumed that all people with a grasp of economics beyond that of grade school is a rascist, and supported it with incorrect facts and very poor grammer. You reserve the right to leave the forum if it offends you.
 
C'mon guys... everyone starts off young. It's life beating us up that makes us old.
 
tbone36109 said:
In terms of disliking products from certian countries it is sometimes due to discrimination. Typically however it is due to observed correlations between poorly produced products and their country of origin. Because of some countries economic conditions, average level of education, morals and standards of production etc, it becomes difficult for compainies to produce certain products with the same quality as other countries.This is not saying that some people are better than others,or that all products from these countries are bad or even that this all products from these countries are worse than the products from other countries; it is merely saying the certain conditions present in certian countries make it difficult to produce certain products. This then leads to trends in product quality, which is eventually observed and expected by people. Most people don't hate other countries for poor products, nor do they feel that it is impossible to create a good product in that country; they simply acknolodge that it is likely for certain products coming from certian countries to not meet the quality similar products from countries better equiped for its production.

And rarely is it said about all asian countries, normally, it is only china and some other south eastern asian countries. Actually countries such as japan are well respected for thier products, being the home of most major drums company's highest product lines. I do not feel everything thinks it is just america either, what about england, they are very well respected on this forum for thier musical equipment(marhsal amps).

Keep in mind that, in a country such as china, it is much cheaper to manufacture a product than it would be in one such as the United States. Regardless of this bussinesses still produce products in countries such as the U.S. This is not because billion dollar world wide companies have no concept of bussiness but because these countries lack the ability to produce various aspects as they wish them for them to be produced. That is why companies's higher level products are produced in countries such as the U.S., England, and Japan, and why people expect the quality of these products to be higher.

Sorry for ranting but you insulted the forum and this bothered me. Yes, some people are actually rascist, but to call someone a rascist just because they expect the quality of a product to be higher because it was produced in a country whose given conditions were more suited for its production is stupid. If anyone is being predjudice here its you. You assumed that all people with a grasp of economics beyond that of grade school is a rascist, and supported it with incorrect facts and very poor grammer. You reserve the right to leave the forum if it offends you.
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I didn't say that everyone is the same, or everyone is descriminating other countries. I neither say that I call all of them rascist, who expect quality for products produced in countries provided with more suitable situation. Do you think someone expects a quality and if he ddnt get it, he can call the entire products from that country as crap?. I did'nt assume all the people as rascist as you said. I just saw someone shout it out so I responded to it. You think I assumed this whole thing???? I dont have to make a topic like that on some mere assumption and I don't like that either.
 
D-Gravity said:
Ford Van said:
Does that mean you have so little respect for my time that you don't care how hard it is to read? I guess so. QUOTE]

Ok. I think I ve explained this in my earlier post. You 'guess' I dont respect your time in reading my posts? and I dont really care about how hard it will be for you to read my posts, even after posting an apology (after realising the first person himself was in trouble reading my posts) ?? So you dont get my point there? I thought I said sorry for how my posts made you difficult to read. You seem like not getting it right. So there s no value for my apology here for whatever 'wrong' I did?? What else do you want me to do to accept that I understand your value of time reading my posts? Well I will say that was the max. I could do.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! MUCH better! I can read that, and I did. ;) (that was the first post of yours I read all the way through!)

It is amazing. People judge themselves based upon their intentions. The rest of the world judges them based upon their actions. While you intended to say you were sorry about your posts being so hard to read, you ACTIONS said otherwise, because that post was the same run-on sentence, no punctuation crap your original post was. I had no other choice but to believe that you don't respect people because yoru ACTIONS kept saying that. ;)
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Ford Van said:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! MUCH better! I can read that, and I did. ;) (that was the first post of yours I read all the way through!)

It is amazing. People judge themselves based upon their intentions. The rest of the world judges them based upon their actions. While you intended to say you were sorry about your posts being so hard to read, you ACTIONS said otherwise, because that post was the same run-on sentence, no punctuation crap your original post was. I had no other choice but to believe that you don't respect people because yoru ACTIONS kept saying that. ;)
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I think I ve got your point there, Ford. No hard feelings to ya'll.
 
i have a hard feelin' for ford...........maybe i should take him to the cave. :D
 
D-Gravity said:
i honestly thoguht that this s a forum in which people really share their knowledge and help each other. and yea i found it out too to an extent. but after surfing thru a couple of posts, i think people are being really descriminative which i think s the most disgusting thing so far. the reason why im posting this, i saw someone called ' the dewd ' in a post regarding yorkville monitors and its further issues, replyin to each of the queries in a really embarrassing way by descriminating products made in asia. it seems like according to him , that products made in asia are all worthless. and he keeps sayin that way in each of his posts. and using words like 'asian crap' ,'eaten alive by chinese and indians' ..etc. dude, let me ask you one thing how the hell you know that products from asia are such a bad thing to work with? and i ve read some posts in there relating to yorkvilles. many people had trble wit them. and they admit that its cheap. anyone who has a lil bit of common sense could imagine tht cheap products may lack something in their quality. and you think its bad cos its made outside us , or canada? and not that you re only gettin what you ve paid for? ok how many asian products would you say that you ve admitted as good? the products that you use in us are mostly made by companies in china or in other asian countries. like sony, toyota, .. many many more. even after 9/11,the flags for us wer made in china.. how wierd is that? and evrythin else even some small products like high security locks.. ok you might say its something differant. im not being someone who blames it all on us on europe. the thing is you guys dont admit if something gone bad with you. and how dumb this yorkville guys will be to deliver the goods which are made in asia to their customers without even checkin em with these defects? cos they dont have to. they pay for what they re gettin.
it simply proves how clsoed minded, whoever makes comments like that are. and they re blaming it all on the manufacturing in asia. and by the way asia doesnt mean china. ther are others too. and you get a cheap product with high end quality? what is this, magic? it s fairly simple for you to say ok its labeled made in china.. its bad. if the label says made in us or canada, its wonderfull. as i said being closed minded to certain facts makes them see others as "asians" or "indians" etc. why do you always descriminate??
i must say that really was something which i ddnt expect from a forum like this.
i m just expressing myself on that and i ddnt mean to hurt someone.
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Awesome post! What were you smoking when you "wrote" it?
 
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