Direct input guitar help please!

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I have a line 6 FlextoneII with a direct out which i am plugging straight into my yamaha 2816, and the quality of the sound is amazing. My only problem is the humming and unwanted noise I am getting. I was thinking that i need a preamp even though i am using a direct out, and i thought it could also just be my amp. DOes anyone have any suggestions on what to do?
 
Single coil pickups in electric guitars can cause hum induction. Generally that's the problem.

What other kind of noises do you get?
 
Try turning off your monitor, or moving away from it. I had the same problem.
 
Oops...nevermind. Obviously you don't have a CRT monitor with a 2816
 
most of the noise comes from the distortion channel but i still get some hissing when its on clean, do you think a noise gate might help?
 
a lot of the hissing is from the amp modelling itself. But, I am not sure exactly what you are referring to, but in general amplifiers all have some noise/hiss, and a good modeller will have that same hiss and noise.
 
Yes. You need a noise gate. You can eliminate the noise somewhat by keeping the pickups away from the amp and using batteries as opposed to plug adapters on any equipment in the chain. Also keep cable runs short as possible. But for complete elimination of noise you will need a noise gate.

Cy
 
Ya a noise gate sounds like it would help, but i can still hear the hissing even when am playing so would a noise gate work while am playing?
 
no.. that's where the other techniques I described come into play..

Also, check to make sure you are recording loud enough. If you boost the signal just short of distortion, it will contain more signal than noise overall.

Cy
 
Ya i cant boost the signal with the 2816 because then i get more noise
 
Hmmm..

At what point are you getting the noise? Is it at the line6 or after it goes into the yamaha?
 
well theres a little coming from the amp but i think the majority is coming from the yamaha. Does that mean i need a better preamp to better boost the signal?
 
yeah that's quite possible.

I thought the line6 could go direct without a preamp, but I don't have a line6 so I don't know for sure.

Usually, if it sounds like a blanket of hiss on top of the signal, then the signal isn't strong enough.

Have you had this problem with other instruments in the yamaha? If not, then I would say a preamp might be needed.

Plus, a good preamp is always a good thing to have in your studio, so it couldnt hurt to get one anyway.

Cy
 
ya i think im gonna go with the focusrite voicemaster because i need a good vocal preamp too, what do u think?
 
i don't know much about focusrite. Do a search on the bbs and you can get some good feedback on its quality.

I personally have an ART Tube preamp. Not only do I use it for vocals, but I put ALL my instruments, including guitars which use modellers, through it. From there it goes straight to the recorder, bypassing the mixer completely.

Cy
 
im gonna go with the voicemaster, thanks a lot for all the help boss.
 
this could help.....level settings

This may or may not be of use to you.....

I have personally experienced a similar 'hissing' low, distortion sound when going through my j-station to my audiophile 2496, although these are different cards and pre amps the same rule may apply.

The hissing distortion noise may be coming from surrounding frequencies; If your set up is in a room which has such things as TV's, radio's, or any other technical equipment, and your computer and/or guitar is positioned near them whilst recording, these can interfere with the sound being produced. Try positioning your guitar alittle further away from things like PC monitors and TV's and/or try turning the Gain levels down a little.

Also a way of instantly finding out if it solves the hissing is running the sound in real time (Dependant on what software your using as to whether or not you can do this) and try moving around and playing the the gain and effects levels.

Another good way of setting the recording level to the right volume so as to prevent such hissing noises and interference is monitoring the inputted sound, again dependant on which software your using and card, usually there is a peice monitoring software privided with soundcard, usually found in the 'control panel' and/or under the 'sound devices' settings.

Hope this helps somewhat...

Sorry if i am rambling unwanted rubbish.....

regards

aL
 
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