DIgital pianos/action

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While the real thing would be best, I have run into some digital pianos that have some pretty darn good action in the keys. Locally, I have tried Roland and Kawai.
Anyone up on these and have opinions on these or other brands?
My main concern is action. Sounds, connection possibilities come after (at this point)
 
My favorite action right now is on the new Yamahas. It has a lot more spring back than the Rolands. The Rolands have a decent feel but they are a little mushy and harder to do any fast stuff.
 
Good piano "sound" on those Yamaha's?
Any models better than others?
I'll try to track 'em down.
 
I got the Yamaha P80 for I think $750 or so. I mainly got it for the action but the piano sound is great. I got sidetracked into playing guitar right after I bought it so I haven't really used it all that much.

It's a good no frills controller with good piano and rhodes tones and a great action. It wouldnt be a great live controller if you want to do a lot of complex patch changes and real time controls but for a cheap pure piano/controller it's a good deal.
 
KAWAI

It was the MP9000, now it is the MP9500. When I was looking for a digital piano, I checked out the Yamaha. I thought it was nice until I played the KAWAI. Hands down the KAWAI blew away the Yamaha. The draw back for the KAWAI is it is big and heavy. It has some kind of real hammer type action and so the the instrument is rather substantial and heavy, It is not something you want to lug around to gigs. In that case, the Yamaha would probably be better just for the weight, however, it does not fell or sound as good. Anad, BTW, the KAWAI piano sounds are absolutely wonderful (for a digital piano that is). The other day me and my girlfriend (who is a classically trained pianist) were passing the Steinway showcase store on 57th Street in Manhattan and so we stopped in. This store is uge and beautiful and filled with some of the best pianos you could imagine. For a piano player, it was like a wet dream going from piano to piano, checking out all the Steinway Bs and Ms. They were all great. The point is, no digital piano can or will ever compare to a real Steinway grand. It just can't. these Steinway's felt and sounded so good is made every digital piano seem like a toy. Now getting back to the issue at hand. There is also a keyboard made by General Music. They have two models of digital piano that are supposed to be very good and comparable, possibly, to the KAWAI. And also BTW, the KAWAI won some kind of award for best digital piano. That was the MP9000. the new 9500 has more sounds, improved sounds, and, alos, the KAWAI is also a very sophisticated Midi Controller. I don't often use it for this function becuase for most of the midi synth sounds, I like the feel of a synth keyboard so I use a KORG KARMA. But for any piano sounds and for bass, the AWAI as a controller is great. Anyway, go check it out, play it and listen to is, you won't be dissapointed.
 
Isnt the Kawai the big fat, height wise, controller? I did like the action on those but you are right about the size/weight.
 
Yes Big @ss Monster

Yes the Kawai is a big monster, very heavy, the key action is mechanical and the keyboard bed is very, very solid. The action is hands down the best out of any electronic digital piano, I played all of them and there was no comparison. Interestingly, as I say or have said, from electric pinal to electric piano (electric piano referes in this context to digital pianos of the newer type, note the Rhodes, Wurlitzer of yesteryear) the KAWAI was the best I found. Nevertheless, if you then go to a real piano, particularly, a Steinway B, you will see the real difference and you will know that there is no electronic piano, new or old, that has ever even come close to those instrumens, either the feel of sound. A new Steinway B is a remarkable thing. The feel, sound touch...astounding. The amount of expression offered by one of those instruments and the amout of inspiration you get basically has no equal anywhere. But, and this is important, there is way of playing that a real piano encourages. Real pianos respond in certain ways and thus are played withint the realm of that response. The KAWAI does respond in some ways like a piano becuase it does have a mechanical keyboard, not just a weighted keyboard with velocity. There is an approximateion of hammer action. Hammers in real pianos have a kind of "hopper" action that you can feel. Pianists use the hopper action to control the expression on the keyboard. It produces a characteristic feel. The KAWA mechanically imitates this and therein lies its beauty and value. So, choose what you like, but personally, the Yamaha to be was toy-like by comparison. And the sound was nothing special, not bad, not great, okay. If you need to move it around, fine, if not, it does not even compare to the KAWAI. That, BTW, is just my opinion.
 
I'll look for the Fatar...
Tried a Roland RD 700 last week. Anyone laid a hand on this one?
Very nice...almost a synth, but no aftertouch. Doesn't thump too badly, either.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
Fatar sl-990 has the best hammer action and even makes the low notes louder for only 400.00 I reccommmend it highly.

Um, the Fatar is a MIDI controller. It produces no sounds of its own!!
 
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