Delta 1010 & the Control Panel - can't adjust volume

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Why can't I adjust the volume of my monitors through the Delta 1010 Control Panel. When playing an MP3, I can adjust the volume from WinAmp...but not the control panel.
 
Are you saying none of the volume controls work, or just the master volume?
Are any of the meters showing any sound coming through?

Without knowing more, I would guess you should try and un-install, and then re-install the driver. Make sure you have the latest.

(I know this is basic stuff, but you gotta get that out of the way first.)
 
Yeah, I'm reading stuff on my meters...they are bouncing up and down on the wave out 1/2 and on the master.

It's just that when I pull the meters down on either, there is no response in volume on my monitors.
 
The control panel mixer can only affect what you hear when it's set to feed the output your monitors are connected on. Use the panels patchbay/router tab ( bullet the monitor mix under Wave Out 1/2, and it controls analog outs 1/2 ).
 
When I change that to "Monitor Mixer", the sound cuts off entirely.
 
I can assure you it should work!

You don't have any of the mixers channels or master muted or faders turned down?
Are your monitors actually attached to output 1/2?
 
that has to do with the output of winamp, diirect sound and whatever the other option is..I forget but change it n the delta ctrl pannel will work
 
My my....don't I feel stupid....or is the M-Audio Ctrl Panel playing tricks on me? It works now but the other day when I changed it, it didn't work.

Who knows..... :confused:
 
Lemon Tree, in this case, the "monitor mixer" is part of the m-audio drivers control panel. It allows you to set up a mix of any of the ins and outs and route it to a choice of output. The idea is to provide "zero latency monitoring". It isn't quite zero though, because the analog converters on the card delay by a millisecond or so. The Mixing is performed in the cards audio controller chip ( IC-Ensemble Envy24), is entirely digital and doesn't take any cpu power from the host machine.

This doesn't matter to the program providing the audio, so long as its set to use one of the M-audio cards output channels, and that's enabled in the monitor mixer - and it can even be one not directly feeding anything else. The Mixer re-routes it.

Additionally, you can record the monitor mix as the driver has a Monitor mix record channel - useful to captire the output of one program into another if either don't support re-wire.
 
Is there a way to acheive true zero latency monitoring with the Delta 1010?

This would obviously be for tracking...

Of course, 1ms doesn't really matter.



Also, another question. I'd like to hook my Tascam CD Guitar Trainer up to my Delta. It only has one line out. How do I connect that into the two on one of my inputs on the Delta?
 
Jim Y said:
Lemon Tree, in this case, the "monitor mixer" is part of the m-audio drivers control panel. It allows you to set up a mix of any of the ins and outs and route it to a choice of output. The idea is to provide "zero latency monitoring". It isn't quite zero though, because the analog converters on the card delay by a millisecond or so. The Mixing is performed in the cards audio controller chip ( IC-Ensemble Envy24), is entirely digital and doesn't take any cpu power from the host machine.

This doesn't matter to the program providing the audio, so long as its set to use one of the M-audio cards output channels, and that's enabled in the monitor mixer - and it can even be one not directly feeding anything else. The Mixer re-routes it.

Additionally, you can record the monitor mix as the driver has a Monitor mix record channel - useful to captire the output of one program into another if either don't support re-wire.
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Thanks for that info, Jim.... I've been using a couple of Delta cards daisy chained to gether for about 3 years now. A 1010 and two 410s giving me 12in/24out I've got my system down to 2 milliseconds and hey...I'm well aware of how the control panel works but thanks for the heads up. 9/10 for effort there :D
 
Sorry LemonTree, I misunderstood your comment about Winamp ;)

True zero latency would be an analog mixer - that's basically what interfaces advertising true zero have built in. The OmniStudio you can add to a Delta 66 or 44 does this.

I think most interfaces take about 30 samples (give or take a few) in the converters. That's going one way, you'd get that delay twice with the Delta monitor mixer. DAW software usually cannot compensate unless it lets you manually enter a recording offset. As it's in samples, the actual amount of delay decreases with higher sample-rates. At around 1ms and probably less, it isn't really worth bothering about.

With a 1010, you'd need a mixer with 8 channels each with a direct output for each input of the 1010. A spare stereo channel would bring in a 1010 output pair your DAW software is using as the main mix buss. You can then monitor live inputs with playback while the recording signals are going direct to the 1010.
 
yeah I use a soundtracs Topaz Project 8 with 24 direct outs, 12 of which I use (8 on the 1010 and 2 on both of the 410s) and 24 tape returns = no latency even though my Delta control panel tells me I have 2ms delay

There's a direct sound output and a wav output in winamp, can't remember which one but one of them over rides the delta panel or vice versa....over rules the winamp volume control. That's what I was getting at before...prolly way off track as usual. :)
 
There's a disable option in the Delta control panel - stops audio programs from controlling the mixer. I always have this disabled (checked). Windows own mixer should then be greyed out if you try to use it as it cannot "see" the Delta mixer.

You can crash the Delta driver if you change the buffer size while ASIO or WDM/KS programs are open. I find the only fix is a re-boot if that happens.
I've managed to freeze the driver by messing around with the s/pdif settings. Setting back to internal clock got it going again.

If you use a hardware mixer for monitoring inputs and output, you must not ever use either the monitor mixer or your softwares input monitoring at the same time. Because of the delay compared to the direct sound in the hardware mixer, there will be severe cancellation at different frequencies (comb filtering) -it sounds crap. I've a feeling some newbies not being aware of this might blame the soundcard.
 
never had a problem with the delta driver or control panel freezing while tweeking settings... I always regarded the monitor mix as an option for people who MITB...never had a use for it myself. There's a lot to be said about people who don't RTFM ;)
 
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