Delta 1010 PCI vs. Digi001

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hey i wanted to upgrade my computer and also getting a new sound card...(now i own soundblaster Live).. And i was looking at those 2 ...Looking at price Delta is 200$ cheaper so its good for me since i don`t have to much $$ =o) i think everybody has that problem hehe... But then I was thinking yeah save some money and then not be able to do whatever i want to do..I AM VERY NEW in this so sorry for all that big explanation...My point is that I want to record, mix and master my music( dance, techno) and I also want to get 2 keyboards and one bass station...for Drums i use software Fruityloops(which is ok)..and wanted to connect all that USE software plugins as filters and stuff..Which card do you recomend?? THANKS AGAIN and sorry for such a LONG POST! =o) by the way anybody can tell me where can i learn more about MIxiNG MaSTERING and connecting all the stuff...
I make music for 2 years but all of this was on PC and software...=o)
 
One thing to consider is that it ranges from pain in the ass to impossible to use any other software with the Digi001 other than Pro Tools (aside from i/o 1 and 2). Also, if you have a bunch of Direct X or VST plugins, you can't use them with Pro Tools (as far as I know).
 
Delta 1010 is a far better sound card. But, it doesn't have any preamps (err..XLR inputs). So, if you are planning on using a microphone to do any recording, you'll have to spend around 100 bucks to get a decent preamp (like an Art Tube MP, or MidiMan Audiobuddy).

The preamp will be better than what is in the Digi001, as well.

But, if you arn't even doing live instrument recording, get the Delta and be happy you got the better card.
 
digi converters blow....digidesign blows...every quality daw is cheaper and prolly better then its 'industry standar' counter part
 
the delta 1010 is a better sounding sound card, i have one, a partner of mine has a digi001 and a older version of logic his stuff sounds good but mine sounds better.get the delta 1010, if you look around you can get one for $380-599
 
am i going to be able to connect near-field monitors to DELTA ? thanks..
 
Yes you can

We have the technology.

Actually one other thing to add here is that the 1010 does not have software like the digi, so you will need to dole out some cash for that as well. To start with and to save some money, you can try n-track (about $60 last time I looked). Note that there is even a thread dedicated to it here.

I do have the 1010 and am still in the process of getting everything to work in my new system. I have only had it for about a week and due to the holidays, have not had much time to work with it.

Peace
Joe
 
the delta 1010 comes with more software than you get with the digi001.

right now, its shipping with logic delta which gives 16 tracks of 24/96 recording as well as midi, as well as directx plugins.

It also has a bunch of other software included like gigasampler le
 
the delta 1010 is a better sounding sound card, i have one, a partner of mine has a digi001 and a older version of logic his stuff sounds good but mine sounds better
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Your stuff sounding better does not necessarily mean that your soundcard is better. If you gave Alan Moulder a Soundblaster Live card and n-track, his stuff would sound better than yours, and you wouldn't explain that by how much better his gear is, would you? Now, if YOU mixed a session using the same wave files with the two systems, and your system sounded better, then you might have a point. But if you are recording different sources and using different gear with different operators, you really don't have much of an argument.
the delta 1010... comes with more software... right now, its shipping with logic delta which gives 16 tracks of 24/96 recording as well as midi, as well as directx plugins.
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Is this more software? Digi 001 comes with Pro Tools LE, which gives you 24 tracks at 24bit/48 kHz, plus 128 MIDI tracks. We can argue all day about whether there is any advantage to 96 k recording, but most people would probably agree that at the consumer level there is not.
 
Teacher said:
digi converters blow....digidesign blows...every quality daw is cheaper and prolly better then its 'industry standar' counter part
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Oh Absolutely...I mean, why would we doubt you???
 
Teacher said:
digi converters blow....digidesign blows...every quality daw is cheaper and prolly better then its 'industry standar' counter part
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Such strong opinions... So why does it suck... Compare man.....


I love these fucking opinions that have no dialog added with them....


"Red Haired haired women suck!"..... <----Wrong way to say it...


"Red Haired women suck BECAUSE ..... (insert your thoughts here)"<----Right way to say it..




See what Im getting at "Teacher?"..... Add some fucking thought to your "thoughts"...


Teacher.. Im offering you this free advice, cause in the long run people will take you seriously as opposed to the way they take you now......
 
Get a Motu BECAUSE I told Voxvendor they are better... ;)

Hey Vox! What's up bro?? :D

I'm gunna speak up here. I've heard music from 1010's and Digi 001's. Both can be made to sound very good. It's more in the operator than the box...

I bought a Motu / Logic combo for a different reason. I wanted firewire portability and DirectX support since I already owned several quality plugs.

I would venture a guess that if you give each unit to a "pro" no-one could tell the difference.

zip >>
 
Ok, so with the basic delta 1010, you get 8 fewer tracks than the digi001. Remember though that the delta 1010 cost $300 less in the first place and that can buy you software that will give you tracks up the wazoo,


but here is the other software that you get with the 1010 that you dont get with digi001

limited edition versions of :
Acid, gigasampler
Unity
Mixmeister
MVP
Sonic foundry siren

What about compatibility with hundreds of vst and directx plugins out there

yes, for somebody looking for sonic purity, 96khz is the way to go right now. 48 does not cut it.

Did I mention its $300 cheaper.
 
The 96k argument is totally ludicrous. Nobody who's trying to "save $300" is going to have all of the other gear it's going to take to get a sonic benefit from 96k. This topic has been discussed at great length elsewhere, and if it was truly an issue everyone would be recording at 96k. Are you?

While I agree that the specs on the Delta 1010 are better than those of the 001, I have never heard the sonic benefit of those specs in a home recording. I have heard recordings that sounded equally terrible and equally fantastic from both. And I've never heard anything on a standard audio CD that convinced me that 96k was anything but hype.

On the price, check your math.
799-599=200
 
VOXVENDOR said:


"Red Haired haired women suck!"..... <----Wrong way to say it...


"Red Haired women suck BECAUSE ..... (insert your thoughts here)"<----Right way to say it..
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Anybody who would make a claim like this, even in jest, has lost his credibility. Gimme a redhead anytime!
 
Whoopysnorp said:


Anybody who would make a claim like this, even in jest, has lost his credibility. Gimme a redhead anytime!
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He he:D
 
charger said:

Your stuff sounding better does not necessarily mean that your soundcard is better. If you gave Alan Moulder a Soundblaster Live card and n-track, his stuff would sound better than yours, and you wouldn't explain that by how much better his gear is, would you? Now, if YOU mixed a session using the same wave files with the two systems, and your system sounded better, then you might have a point. But if you are recording different sources and using different gear with different operators, you really don't have much of an argument.
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ok simple as this... plugging the triton into the console and recording 6 channels at a time synced, the delta souds much better. all the levels and everything were 100% the same never moved them, the digi001 has a lot more hiss, while recording and vocals sound distorted while with the delta i can tern everything all the way up and i still don't get hiss, an vocal sound clean and crisp. the digi is decent but i'll keep my delta over it anyday. soundblaster live and n-track lol..i doubt it will sound better than ny delta/nuedo setup... i recorded with a sb live back in the day ...

if you want the digi, get it. its not a bad card but tech support :D you won't get any from digidesign, and if 24 tracks is enough for you, run it...i know last night we took 32... and we've used more than that
 
charger,

have you compared 48k to 96k? Oh. wait you are using protools and they are only just beginning to put 96 k sampling in their high-end, high-priced systems. If you have not heard 96k, I'll tell you right now that it makes a big difference in sound quality And you dont need special gear. It makes a difference to anything you convert.

I dont use 96 k cos my pc is 566 celeron with 256 megs ram. by the end of the year, a Dual 2 gigahertz processor with 2 gigabytes of ram should be about $500. Then Ill be using 96k.

The delta 1010 is $500. Thats a $300 difference.
 
i think i`ll go with delta 1010 then cause most of you guys kind of support it more then Digi001... that is good because i`ll be able to save that $200-300 and get better near-field monitors..=o) thanks guys!!
 
The 96k argument is totally ludicrous. Nobody who's trying to "save $300" is going to

I completely agree with this. If you have a Neve console or a SSL or at least a Avalon pre - throw in a few Neumans for good measure you will probably see a benefit from 96K.

If - like most of us - you are using a $300 condenser with a $300 preamp recording in your bedroom you're just not going to hear it....
 
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